From: CBS%UK.AC.RUTHERFORD.MAIL::CA.UTORONTO.UTCS.VM::POSTMSTR 14-JAN-1989 07:50:47.77 To: archive CC: Subj: Via: UK.AC.RUTHERFORD.MAIL; Sat, 14 Jan 89 7:50 GMT Received: from UKACRL by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 8834; Sat, 14 Jan 89 07:49:34 GM Received: from vm.utcs.utoronto.ca by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 1335; Sat, 14 Jan 89 07:49:32 G Received: by UTORONTO (Mailer X1.25) id 0342; Fri, 13 Jan 89 14:42:58 EST Date: Fri, 13 Jan 89 14:42:43 EST From: "Steve Younker (Postmaster)" To: archive@UK.AC.OXFORD.VAX ========================================================================= Date: 12 May 1987, 23:50:02 EDT Reply-To: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS This is test number 1. Please acknowledge. ========================================================================= Date: 13 May 1987, 00:06:41 EDT Reply-To: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS This is test number 2. Please acknowledge. ========================================================================= Date: 13 May 1987, 23:08:57 EDT Reply-To: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS This is a test of a new BITNET mailer for people involved with the support of computing in the humanities. Please acknowledge receipt of this message. A more complete explanation and welcoming message will be forthcoming. Thanks very much. ========================================================================= Date: 14 May 1987, 16:05:17 EDT Reply-To: IAN@UTOREPAS Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: IAN@UTOREPAS Message received. ========================================================================= Date: 14 May 1987, 20:17:18 EDT Reply-To: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS Welcome to HUMANIST HUMANIST is a Bitnet/NetNorth electronic mail network for people who support computing in the humanities. Those who teach, review software, answer questions, give advice, program, write documentation, or otherwise support research and teaching in this area are included. Although HUMANIST is intended to help these people exchange all kinds of information, it is primarily meant for discussion rather than publication or advertisement. In general, members of the network are encouraged to ask questions and offer answers, to begin and contribute to discussions, to suggest problems for research, and so forth. One of the specific motivations for establishing HUMANIST was to allow people involved in this area to form a common idea of the nature of their work, its requirements, and its standards. Institutional recognition is not infrequently inadequate, at least partly because computing in the humanities is an emerging and highly cross-disciplinary field. Its support is significantly different from the support of other kinds of computing, with which it may be confused. Perhaps you don't think so. In any case, let us know what you do think, about this or any other relevant subject. HUMANIST is one of the inaugural projects of a new special interest group for the support of computing in the humanities, which is currently applying for joint affiliation with the Association for Computing in the Humanities (ACH) and the Association for Literary and Linguistic Computing (ALLC). Information about this SIG may be obtained by sending a message to George Brett (ECSGHB@TUCC.BITNET). Currently anyone given access to HUMANIST can send mail to all other members of the network without restriction. It is expected that the members will at least be civil to each other, however spirited the argument! New members are welcome, provided that they fit the broad guidelines described above. Please tell anyone who might be interested to send a note to me, giving his or her name, address, telephone number, university affiliation, and a short description of what he or she does to support computing in the humanities. I will then add that person to the list. If anyone should wish to be dropped from the list, please send a note to that effect. Willard McCarty Centre for Computing in the Humanities University of Toronto (MCCARTY@UTOREPAS.BITNET) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 May 87 15:38:51 EDT Reply-To: uucp administrator Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: uucp administrator remote execution [uucp job princetA0676 (5/14-15:38:47)] rmail dartvax!psc90.dartvax!jdg exited with status 67 ===== stdin was ===== From utai!gpu.utcs.toronto.edu!utoronto.bitnet!HUMANIST Thu May 14 15:32:09 + 1987 remote from princeton Received: from utai.UUCP by seismo.CSS.GOV (5.54/1.14) with UUCP id AA07241; Thu, 14 May 87 14:40:13 EDT Received: from gpu.utcs.toronto.edu by ai.toronto.edu via ETHER with SMTP id + AA17656; Thu, 14 May 87 12:01:41 EDT Received: from UTORONTO.BITNET by gpu.utcs.toronto.edu via RSCS with BSMTP id + AA01607; Thu, 14 May 87 11:02:12 EDT Message-Id: <8705141502.AA01607@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> Received: by UTORONTO (Mailer X1.23b) id 0977; Thu, 14 May 87 11:00:27 EDT Date: 13 May 1987, 23:08:57 EDT Reply-To: princeton!utorepas.bitnet.UUCP!MCCARTY Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: princeton!utorepas.bitnet.UUCP!MCCARTY To: Joel Goldfield This is a test of a new BITNET mailer for people involved with the support of computing in the humanities. Please acknowledge receipt of this message. A more complete explanation and welcoming message will be forthcoming. Thanks very much. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 May 87 22:19:26 EDT Reply-To: uucp administrator Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: uucp administrator remote execution [uucp job dartvaxN4cf7 (5/14-22:19:19)] rmail psc90.dartvax!jdg exited with status 67 ===== stdin was ===== >From pruxa!princeton!utai!gpu.utcs.toronto.edu!utoronto.bitnet!HUMANIST Thu + May 14 19:10:21 1987 remote from ihnp4 Received: by ihnp4.ATT.COM id AA20395; 14 May 87 19:10:21 CDT (Thu) Received: from utai.UUCP by seismo.CSS.GOV (5.54/1.14) with UUCP id AA11806; Thu, 14 May 87 17:18:54 EDT Received: from gpu.utcs.toronto.edu by ai.toronto.edu via ETHER with SMTP id + AA24865; Thu, 14 May 87 16:10:35 EDT Received: from UTORONTO.BITNET by gpu.utcs.toronto.edu via RSCS with BSMTP id + AA15934; Thu, 14 May 87 16:09:08 EDT Message-Id: <8705142009.AA15934@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> Received: by UTORONTO (Mailer X1.23b) id 3389; Thu, 14 May 87 16:07:30 EDT Date: 14 May 1987, 16:05:17 EDT Reply-To: princeton!utorepas.bitnet.UUCP!IAN Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: ihnp4!princeton!utorepas.bitnet.UUCP!IAN To: Joel Goldfield Message received. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 May 87 22:19:55 EDT Reply-To: uucp administrator Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: uucp administrator remote execution [uucp job dartvaxN4cf9 (5/14-22:19:51)] rmail psc90.dartvax!jdg exited with status 67 ===== stdin was ===== >From pruxa!princeton!utai!gpu.utcs.toronto.edu!utoronto.bitnet!HUMANIST Thu + May 14 21:12:27 1987 remote from ihnp4 Received: by ihnp4.ATT.COM id AA25498; 14 May 87 21:12:27 CDT (Thu) Received: from utai.UUCP by seismo.CSS.GOV (5.54/1.14) with UUCP id AA00537; Thu, 14 May 87 20:47:35 EDT Received: from gpu.utcs.toronto.edu by ai.toronto.edu via ETHER with SMTP id + AA00958; Thu, 14 May 87 20:27:42 EDT Received: from UTORONTO.BITNET by gpu.utcs.toronto.edu via RSCS with BSMTP id + AA19685; Thu, 14 May 87 20:26:20 EDT Message-Id: <8705150026.AA19685@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> Received: by UTORONTO (Mailer X1.23b) id 4035; Thu, 14 May 87 20:24:37 EDT Date: 14 May 1987, 20:17:18 EDT Reply-To: princeton!utorepas.bitnet.UUCP!MCCARTY Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: ihnp4!princeton!utorepas.bitnet.UUCP!MCCARTY To: Joel Goldfield Welcome to HUMANIST HUMANIST is a Bitnet/NetNorth electronic mail network for people who support computing in the humanities. Those who teach, review software, answer questions, give advice, program, write documentation, or otherwise support research and teaching in this area are included. Although HUMANIST is intended to help these people exchange all kinds of information, it is primarily meant for discussion rather than publication or advertisement. In general, members of the network are encouraged to ask questions and offer answers, to begin and contribute to discussions, to suggest problems for research, and so forth. One of the specific motivations for establishing HUMANIST was to allow people involved in this area to form a common idea of the nature of their work, its requirements, and its standards. Institutional recognition is not infrequently inadequate, at least partly because computing in the humanities is an emerging and highly cross-disciplinary field. Its support is significantly different from the support of other kinds of computing, with which it may be confused. Perhaps you don't think so. In any case, let us know what you do think, about this or any other relevant subject. HUMANIST is one of the inaugural projects of a new special interest group for the support of computing in the humanities, which is currently applying for joint affiliation with the Association for Computing in the Humanities (ACH) and the Association for Literary and Linguistic Computing (ALLC). Information about this SIG may be obtained by sending a message to George Brett (ECSGHB@TUCC.BITNET). Currently anyone given access to HUMANIST can send mail to all other members of the network without restriction. It is expected that the members will at least be civil to each other, however spirited the argument! New members are welcome, provided that they fit the broad guidelines described above. Please tell anyone who might be interested to send a note to me, giving his or her name, address, telephone number, university affiliation, and a short description of what he or she does to support computing in the humanities. I will then add that person to the list. If anyone should wish to be dropped from the list, please send a note to that effect. Willard McCarty Centre for Computing in the Humanities University of Toronto (MCCARTY@UTOREPAS.BITNET) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 May 87 04:17:44 EDT Reply-To: uucp administrator Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: uucp administrator remote execution [uucp job dartvaxN4cfb (5/15-4:17:40)] rmail psc90.dartvax!jdg exited with status 67 ===== stdin was ===== >From pruxa!princeton!utai!gpu.utcs.toronto.edu!utoronto.bitnet!HUMANIST Fri + May 15 03:12:34 1987 remote from ihnp4 Received: by ihnp4.ATT.COM id AA08110; 15 May 87 03:12:34 CDT (Fri) Received: from utai.UUCP by seismo.CSS.GOV (5.54/1.14) with UUCP id AA02239; Thu, 14 May 87 22:16:29 EDT Received: from gpu.utcs.toronto.edu by ai.toronto.edu via ETHER with SMTP id + AA01480; Thu, 14 May 87 20:58:51 EDT Received: from UTORONTO.BITNET by gpu.utcs.toronto.edu via RSCS with BSMTP id + AA19932; Thu, 14 May 87 20:57:32 EDT Message-Id: <8705150057.AA19932@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> Received: by UTORONTO (Mailer X1.23b) id 4144; Thu, 14 May 87 20:55:44 EDT Date: Thu, 14 May 87 15:38:51 EDT Reply-To: uucp administrator Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: uucp administrator To: Joel Goldfield remote execution [uucp job princetA0676 (5/14-15:38:47)] rmail dartvax!psc90.dartvax!jdg exited with status 67 ===== stdin was ===== >From utai!gpu.utcs.toronto.edu!utoronto.bitnet!HUMANIST Thu May 14 15:32:09 + 1987 remote from princeton Received: from utai.UUCP by seismo.CSS.GOV (5.54/1.14) with UUCP id AA07241; Thu, 14 May 87 14:40:13 EDT Received: from gpu.utcs.toronto.edu by ai.toronto.edu via ETHER with SMTP id + AA17656; Thu, 14 May 87 12:01:41 EDT Received: from UTORONTO.BITNET by gpu.utcs.toronto.edu via RSCS with BSMTP id + AA01607; Thu, 14 May 87 11:02:12 EDT Message-Id: <8705141502.AA01607@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> Received: by UTORONTO (Mailer X1.23b) id 0977; Thu, 14 May 87 11:00:27 EDT Date: 13 May 1987, 23:08:57 EDT Reply-To: princeton!utorepas.bitnet.UUCP!MCCARTY Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: princeton!utorepas.bitnet.UUCP!MCCARTY To: Joel Goldfield This is a test of a new BITNET mailer for people involved with the support of computing in the humanities. Please acknowledge receipt of this message. A more complete explanation and welcoming message will be forthcoming. Thanks very much. ========================================================================= Date: 15 May 1987, 11:15:21 EDT Reply-To: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS My apologies for a recent flood of junk mail relating to a bad address for one of our members. Please bear with me while I figure out the arcane manners and methods of this very promising tool. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 May 87 11:54:40 EDT Reply-To: uucp administrator Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: uucp administrator remote execution [uucp job dartvaxN4d02 (5/15-11:54:37)] rmail psc90.dartvax!jdg exited with status 67 ===== stdin was ===== >From pruxa!princeton!utai!gpu.utcs.toronto.edu!utoronto.bitnet!HUMANIST Fri + May 15 10:46:58 1987 remote from ihnp4 Received: by ihnp4.ATT.COM id AA02744; 15 May 87 10:46:58 CDT (Fri) Received: from utai.UUCP by seismo.CSS.GOV (5.54/1.14) with UUCP id AA00887; Fri, 15 May 87 10:18:53 EDT Received: from gpu.utcs.toronto.edu by ai.toronto.edu via ETHER with SMTP id + AA08456; Fri, 15 May 87 09:23:55 EDT Received: from UTORONTO.BITNET by gpu.utcs.toronto.edu via RSCS with BSMTP id + AA29270; Fri, 15 May 87 09:22:58 EDT Message-Id: <8705151322.AA29270@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> Received: by UTORONTO (Mailer X1.23b) id 4882; Fri, 15 May 87 09:21:17 EDT Date: Thu, 14 May 87 22:19:26 EDT Reply-To: uucp administrator Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: uucp administrator To: Joel Goldfield remote execution [uucp job dartvaxN4cf7 (5/14-22:19:19)] rmail psc90.dartvax!jdg exited with status 67 ===== stdin was ===== >From pruxa!princeton!utai!gpu.utcs.toronto.edu!utoronto.bitnet!HUMANIST Thu + May 14 19:10:21 1987 remote from ihnp4 Received: by ihnp4.ATT.COM id AA20395; 14 May 87 19:10:21 CDT (Thu) Received: from utai.UUCP by seismo.CSS.GOV (5.54/1.14) with UUCP id AA11806; Thu, 14 May 87 17:18:54 EDT Received: from gpu.utcs.toronto.edu by ai.toronto.edu via ETHER with SMTP id + AA24865; Thu, 14 May 87 16:10:35 EDT Received: from UTORONTO.BITNET by gpu.utcs.toronto.edu via RSCS with BSMTP id + AA15934; Thu, 14 May 87 16:09:08 EDT Message-Id: <8705142009.AA15934@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> Received: by UTORONTO (Mailer X1.23b) id 3389; Thu, 14 May 87 16:07:30 EDT Date: 14 May 1987, 16:05:17 EDT Reply-To: princeton!utorepas.bitnet.UUCP!IAN Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: ihnp4!princeton!utorepas.bitnet.UUCP!IAN To: Joel Goldfield Message received. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 May 87 11:55:03 EDT Reply-To: uucp administrator Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: uucp administrator remote execution [uucp job dartvaxN4d03 (5/15-11:54:56)] rmail psc90.dartvax!jdg exited with status 67 ===== stdin was ===== >From pruxa!princeton!utai!gpu.utcs.toronto.edu!utoronto.bitnet!HUMANIST Fri + May 15 10:48:25 1987 remote from ihnp4 Received: by ihnp4.ATT.COM id AA02808; 15 May 87 10:48:25 CDT (Fri) Received: from utai.UUCP by seismo.CSS.GOV (5.54/1.14) with UUCP id AA00972; Fri, 15 May 87 10:22:18 EDT Received: from gpu.utcs.toronto.edu by ai.toronto.edu via ETHER with SMTP id + AA08465; Fri, 15 May 87 09:24:22 EDT Received: from UTORONTO.BITNET by gpu.utcs.toronto.edu via RSCS with BSMTP id + AA29286; Fri, 15 May 87 09:23:23 EDT Message-Id: <8705151323.AA29286@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> Received: by UTORONTO (Mailer X1.23b) id 4942; Fri, 15 May 87 09:21:39 EDT Date: Thu, 14 May 87 22:19:55 EDT Reply-To: uucp administrator Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: uucp administrator To: Joel Goldfield remote execution [uucp job dartvaxN4cf9 (5/14-22:19:51)] rmail psc90.dartvax!jdg exited with status 67 ===== stdin was ===== >From pruxa!princeton!utai!gpu.utcs.toronto.edu!utoronto.bitnet!HUMANIST Thu + May 14 21:12:27 1987 remote from ihnp4 Received: by ihnp4.ATT.COM id AA25498; 14 May 87 21:12:27 CDT (Thu) Received: from utai.UUCP by seismo.CSS.GOV (5.54/1.14) with UUCP id AA00537; Thu, 14 May 87 20:47:35 EDT Received: from gpu.utcs.toronto.edu by ai.toronto.edu via ETHER with SMTP id + AA00958; Thu, 14 May 87 20:27:42 EDT Received: from UTORONTO.BITNET by gpu.utcs.toronto.edu via RSCS with BSMTP id + AA19685; Thu, 14 May 87 20:26:20 EDT Message-Id: <8705150026.AA19685@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> Received: by UTORONTO (Mailer X1.23b) id 4035; Thu, 14 May 87 20:24:37 EDT Date: 14 May 1987, 20:17:18 EDT Reply-To: princeton!utorepas.bitnet.UUCP!MCCARTY Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: ihnp4!princeton!utorepas.bitnet.UUCP!MCCARTY To: Joel Goldfield Welcome to HUMANIST HUMANIST is a Bitnet/NetNorth electronic mail network for people who support computing in the humanities. Those who teach, review software, answer questions, give advice, program, write documentation, or otherwise support research and teaching in this area are included. Although HUMANIST is intended to help these people exchange all kinds of information, it is primarily meant for discussion rather than publication or advertisement. In general, members of the network are encouraged to ask questions and offer answers, to begin and contribute to discussions, to suggest problems for research, and so forth. One of the specific motivations for establishing HUMANIST was to allow people involved in this area to form a common idea of the nature of their work, its requirements, and its standards. Institutional recognition is not infrequently inadequate, at least partly because computing in the humanities is an emerging and highly cross-disciplinary field. Its support is significantly different from the support of other kinds of computing, with which it may be confused. Perhaps you don't think so. In any case, let us know what you do think, about this or any other relevant subject. HUMANIST is one of the inaugural projects of a new special interest group for the support of computing in the humanities, which is currently applying for joint affiliation with the Association for Computing in the Humanities (ACH) and the Association for Literary and Linguistic Computing (ALLC). Information about this SIG may be obtained by sending a message to George Brett (ECSGHB@TUCC.BITNET). Currently anyone given access to HUMANIST can send mail to all other members of the network without restriction. It is expected that the members will at least be civil to each other, however spirited the argument! New members are welcome, provided that they fit the broad guidelines described above. Please tell anyone who might be interested to send a note to me, giving his or her name, address, telephone number, university affiliation, and a short description of what he or she does to support computing in the humanities. I will then add that person to the list. If anyone should wish to be dropped from the list, please send a note to that effect. Willard McCarty Centre for Computing in the Humanities University of Toronto (MCCARTY@UTOREPAS.BITNET) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 May 87 11:55:24 EDT Reply-To: uucp administrator Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: uucp administrator remote execution [uucp job dartvaxN4d04 (5/15-11:55:16)] rmail psc90.dartvax!jdg exited with status 67 ===== stdin was ===== >From pruxa!princeton!utai!gpu.utcs.toronto.edu!utoronto.bitnet!HUMANIST Fri + May 15 10:49:52 1987 remote from ihnp4 Received: by ihnp4.ATT.COM id AA02893; 15 May 87 10:49:52 CDT (Fri) Received: from utai.UUCP by seismo.CSS.GOV (5.54/1.14) with UUCP id AA00976; Fri, 15 May 87 10:22:26 EDT Received: from gpu.utcs.toronto.edu by ai.toronto.edu via ETHER with SMTP id + AA08469; Fri, 15 May 87 09:24:49 EDT Received: from UTORONTO.BITNET by gpu.utcs.toronto.edu via RSCS with BSMTP id + AA29297; Fri, 15 May 87 09:23:52 EDT Message-Id: <8705151323.AA29297@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> Received: by UTORONTO (Mailer X1.23b) id 5012; Fri, 15 May 87 09:22:08 EDT Date: Fri, 15 May 87 04:17:44 EDT Reply-To: uucp administrator Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: uucp administrator To: Joel Goldfield remote execution [uucp job dartvaxN4cfb (5/15-4:17:40)] rmail psc90.dartvax!jdg exited with status 67 ===== stdin was ===== >From pruxa!princeton!utai!gpu.utcs.toronto.edu!utoronto.bitnet!HUMANIST Fri + May 15 03:12:34 1987 remote from ihnp4 Received: by ihnp4.ATT.COM id AA08110; 15 May 87 03:12:34 CDT (Fri) Received: from utai.UUCP by seismo.CSS.GOV (5.54/1.14) with UUCP id AA02239; Thu, 14 May 87 22:16:29 EDT Received: from gpu.utcs.toronto.edu by ai.toronto.edu via ETHER with SMTP id + AA01480; Thu, 14 May 87 20:58:51 EDT Received: from UTORONTO.BITNET by gpu.utcs.toronto.edu via RSCS with BSMTP id + AA19932; Thu, 14 May 87 20:57:32 EDT Message-Id: <8705150057.AA19932@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> Received: by UTORONTO (Mailer X1.23b) id 4144; Thu, 14 May 87 20:55:44 EDT Date: Thu, 14 May 87 15:38:51 EDT Reply-To: uucp administrator Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: uucp administrator To: Joel Goldfield remote execution [uucp job princetA0676 (5/14-15:38:47)] rmail dartvax!psc90.dartvax!jdg exited with status 67 ===== stdin was ===== >From utai!gpu.utcs.toronto.edu!utoronto.bitnet!HUMANIST Thu May 14 15:32:09 + 1987 remote from princeton Received: from utai.UUCP by seismo.CSS.GOV (5.54/1.14) with UUCP id AA07241; Thu, 14 May 87 14:40:13 EDT Received: from gpu.utcs.toronto.edu by ai.toronto.edu via ETHER with SMTP id + AA17656; Thu, 14 May 87 12:01:41 EDT Received: from UTORONTO.BITNET by gpu.utcs.toronto.edu via RSCS with BSMTP id + AA01607; Thu, 14 May 87 11:02:12 EDT Message-Id: <8705141502.AA01607@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> Received: by UTORONTO (Mailer X1.23b) id 0977; Thu, 14 May 87 11:00:27 EDT Date: 13 May 1987, 23:08:57 EDT Reply-To: princeton!utorepas.bitnet.UUCP!MCCARTY Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: princeton!utorepas.bitnet.UUCP!MCCARTY To: Joel Goldfield This is a test of a new BITNET mailer for people involved with the support of computing in the humanities. Please acknowledge receipt of this message. A more complete explanation and welcoming message will be forthcoming. Thanks very much. ========================================================================= Date: Friday, 15 May 1987 1536-EST Reply-To: JACKA@PENNDRLS Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: JACKA@PENNDRLS Query- Is this a LSERVER? If so, take a look at how Knut Hofland has set up his Bulletin Board....JACK ========================================================================= Date: 18 May 1987, 20:09:38 EDT Reply-To: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS For those of you who happen to know less than I do about the Bitnet facility that runs HUMANIST, I have just sent out a lengthy memo by Eric Thomas on the "revised List Processor," or ListServ. The memo lists commands available to you. Please note the section entitled, "How can I send commands to LISTSERV?" If you're as ignorant about these things as I was a few days ago, you'll need the help of some local expert. HUMANIST has, I'm happy to say, reached addresses on ARPA-net, uucp, and JANET (in the UK). It remains to be seen whether messages sent to HUMANIST from these networks will be successfully redistributed. I'll be asking one person from each to send a test message. This will mean, alas, more junk-mail, which I hope you will excuse. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 May 87 09:51 EDT Reply-To: SUE ZAYAC Sender: HUMANIST Discussion Comments: cc: US.BEA@CU20B From: SUE ZAYAC Subject: Scholarly Information Journal Hello: I've just sent a complimentary copy of the Columbia University "Scholarly Information Center Journal" to all of you whose names I had from the original meeting of the Ad Hoc SIC for Support Issues at USC in April. The SIC journal is published quarterly by the Columbia University Libraries and the Center for Computing Activities and features articles aimed at informing the scholarly community of available information resources and current trends in information technology. We are particularly trying to slant this towards the humanists, not the EE and CS people. If your name has been added to this mailing list since and you would like a complimentary copy of this journal send me mail, either here or to sue@cunixc.columbia.edu (for you unix buffs). The editor, Bea Hamblett has just pointed out to me that, although subscriptions are free to the Columbia community, there is a $10 subscription fee for others. The issue I sent you neglects to include this informaiton. If you would like to subscribe, send your money, name and address to: Bea Hamblett Editor, SIC Journal Academic Information Services Group Columbia University 612 West 115th Street New York, N.Y. 10025 Bea will also entertain suggestions for articles. If you have an idea of something you would like to contribute, send mail with your proposal (not the full article) to Bea at us.bea@cu20b.columbia.edu (P.S. Do not send jokes about the name of the journal. We've already heard them all.) Susan Zayac SLZUS 280-3724 ------ ========================================================================= Date: 16 May 1987, 18:35:10 EDT Reply-To: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS The recent flood of junk mail you have received was due to what is called a "mailer loop," which is something like an echo that continually increases in volume. This loop began when a message was sent by HUMANIST to Joel Goldfield using a bad address (mea cupla!) and incorrectly returned by network software to HUMANIST, which then dutifully sent it out as a regular message to all members of the list, including Joel at his bad address.... Fortunately for us all, the alert network wizards at our Computing Services pounced on the echo and silenced it. These things happen, I'm told. My apologies. Next week I will be sending out information on the ListServ mailer that should allow you to do various things with it. As for now, you can enter the fray simply by sending a note to HUMANIST at UTORONTO.BITNET. Yours, W.M. ========================================================================= Date: Wednesday, 20 May 1987 1520-EST Reply-To: JACKA@PENNDRLS Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: JACKA@PENNDRLS If anyone out there would like to receive the Online Notes from the Center for Computer Analysis of Texts, please let me know electronically and I will add your name to the mailing list. Thank you. JACK ABERCROMBIE ========================================================================= Date: 20-MAY-1987 18:09:05 Reply-To: LOU%UK.AC.OXFORD.VAX1@AC.UK Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: LOU%UK.AC.OXFORD.VAX1@AC.UK Subject: test missage Here comes a copy of the test message I am about to send to HUMANIST at UTORONTO, cc: MCCARTY at UTOREPAS, so that you can see if messages from JANET are properly redistributed HONK BEEP!     FLASH!!!!  VT100s can be really  [But the last bit wont make much sense except on a VT100] L ========================================================================= Date: 20 May 1987, 08:29:50 EDT Reply-To: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS Our local network expert advises me that it would be much better for members of HUMANIST to request the document I said I was sending you (and didn't!) from the ListServ node nearest you. There is a real danger of burdening the network, apparently. The following list of locations may help. ========================================================================== UTORONTO - here CANADA01 - U of Guelph DEARN - Germany FRECP11 - France TAMVM1 - Tulane UGA - U of Georgia UIUCVMD - U of Illinois SUVM - Syracuse U HEARN - Holland BITNIC - Bitnet Network Center, NYC OREGON1 - Oregon IRISHVM1 - Ireland ========================================================================= So, for example, if you're at Rochester, you don't want to ask UTORONTO's listserv to send information, since SUVM is much closer. So, you will likely want to ask your local expert to help you identify the nearest node, if it's not obvious from the above list (which is incomplete), and to figure out what commands are necessary in your system, for example, to get a copy of LISTSERV MEMO, which describes ListServ and its commands, and to get an up-to-date listing of the members of HUMANIST -- which is growing every day. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 May 87 21:15:37 EDT Reply-To: ENGHUNT@UOGUELPH Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: ENGHUNT@UOGUELPH Willard; Thanks for all your efforts in this endeavour: they are bound to bear fruit in due course. Keep up the good work. Stuart ========================================================================= Date: 19 May 1987, 16:10:23 EDT Reply-To: Dr Abigail Ann Young 1-416-585-4504 Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: Dr Abigail Ann Young 1-416-585-4504 This is a general plea. I realise that many people on this list will not have a great interest in computer-drawn maps, but if you know of anyone who does, or if you know of another list where such a person might see this note, please pass it on!! I have already posted this plea on the ENGLISH discussion started by Marshall Gilliland at UofSaskatchewan, and on CSNEWS at MAINE, so my apologies to anyone who has already seen it, and especially to those who have sent replies! Thank you, Abigail Young Subject: computer generated maps of the British Isles The Records of Early English Drama project here at Toronto, of which I am a part, are engaged in collecting, editing, and publishing any documents which offer external evidence for the production and performance of drama, music, folk drama, or semi-dramatic folk activities in the British Isles before 1642, when most such activities were banned by the Puritan Commonwealth. As an offshoot of this, we are eager to use this data, much of it previously unknown, to generate maps of late medieval and renaissance England to show the distribution of various dramatic or folk activities, and the touring routes of professional companies or actors and musicians during the period. Is there anyone out there who is interested in, or has experience with, this kind of mapping? At the moment, we are experimenting with a micro-based map-making package, MapMaster, but are still interested in finding out about other possibilities, especially those which are mainframe-based. I would be very glad to hear from anyone who has such interests, or who could put me in touch with others who might be. Thank you!! Abigail Ann Young (YOUNG@UTOREPAS) Records of Early English Drama 85 Charles Street West Victoria College University of Toronto ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 May 87 16:00 EDT Reply-To: RSTHC@CUNYVM Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: RSTHC@CUNYVM In-Reply-To: HUMANIST Discussion -- 13 May 1987, 23:08:57 EDT I have received your BITNET mail (obviously). This is the reply you requested. RST ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 May 87 13:01 EDT Reply-To: JMBHC@CUNYVM Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: JMBHC@CUNYVM In-Reply-To: HUMANIST Discussion -- Wednesday, 20 May 1987 1520-EST Yes, could I would like to receive your On Line Notes. My mailing address s: Joanne M. Badagliacco Director, Academic Computing Services Hunter College, CUNY 695 Park Avenue New York, NY 10021 Thanks very much. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 May 87 13:41 EDT Reply-To: JMBHC@CUNYVM Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: JMBHC@CUNYVM In-Reply-To: HUMANIST Discussion -- 19 May 1987, 16:10:23 EDT You might contact Dr. Keith Clark, Department of Geology & Geography, Hunter College, BITNET address: KCCHC@CUNYVM. This is his very area of expertise. Joanne Badagliacco ========================================================================= Date: 21 May 1987, 20:17:53 EDT Reply-To: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS Two HUMANISTs today have suggested to me that we need to have some understanding about what gets sent to everyone and what gets sent to individuals. Let me offer this rule: that specific answers to open queries should be sent directly to the questioner and NOT to everyone -- unless, that is, the answer is a particularly interesting one. The suggestion I got really points to the necessity for self-regulation so that we don't bury each other in junk mail. I'm particularly sensitive to this issue, since I indirectly managed to bury everyone in dartvax chatter last week. Any guidelines for the running or using of HUMANIST would be of interest to us all, I'm sure. Perhaps this could be a useful discussion. I'd very much appreciate comments on my new WELCOME MESSAGE and my first attempt at a user's guide to HUMANIST. These will be coming along shortly. ========================================================================= Date: 21 May 1987, 20:32:37 EDT Reply-To: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS Welcome to HUMANIST HUMANIST is a Bitnet/NetNorth/EARN electronic discussion group for people who support computing in the humanities. Those who teach, review software, answer questions, give advice, program, write documentation, or otherwise support research and teaching in this area are included. Although HUMANIST is intended to help these people exchange all kinds of information, it is primarily meant for discussion rather than publication or advertisement. In general, members of the network are encouraged to ask questions and offer answers, to begin and contribute to discussions, to suggest problems for research, and so forth. One of the specific motivations for establishing HUMANIST was to allow people involved in this area to form a common idea of the nature of their work, its requirements, and its standards. Institutional recognition is not infrequently inadequate, at least partly because computing in the humanities is an emerging and highly cross-disciplinary field. Its support is significantly different from the support of other kinds of computing, with which it may be confused. Perhaps you don't think so. In any case, let us know what you do think, about this or any other relevant subject. HUMANIST is one of the inaugural projects of a new special interest group for the support of computing in the humanities, which is currently applying for joint affiliation with the Association for Computing in the Humanities (ACH) and the Association for Literary and Linguistic Computing (ALLC). Information about this SIG may be obtained by sending a message to George Brett (ECSGHB@TUCC.BITNET). New members are welcome, provided that they fit the broad guidelines described above. Please tell anyone who might be interested to send a note to me, giving his or her name, address, telephone number, university affiliation, and a short description of what he or she does to support computing in the humanities. I will then add that person to the list. If anyone should wish to be dropped from the list, please send a note to that effect. Willard McCarty Centre for Computing in the Humanities University of Toronto (MCCARTY@UTOREPAS.BITNET) ========================================================================= Date: 21 May 1987, 20:33:03 EDT Reply-To: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS How to Use HUMANIST Currently anyone given access to HUMANIST can communicate with all other members without restriction. A member need not be on Bitnet but can use any comparable network with access to Bitnet. Thus, to send mail to everyone simultaneously, use whatever command your system provides (e.g., NOTE or MAIL) addressed to HUMANIST at UTORONTO. Your message is then sent by your local software to the UTORONTO node of Bitnet, where the "Revised List Processor" (or ListServ) automatically redirects it to everyone currently on the list of members. Restricted conversations or asides can, of course, develop from the unrestricted discussions on HUMANIST by members communicating directly with each other. This is particularly recommended for replies to general queries, so that HUMANIST and its members are not burdened with messages of interest only to the person who asked the question. If, for example, one of us asks the rest about the availability of software for keeping notes in Devanagari, suggestions should be sent directly to the questioner's e-mail address, not to HUMANIST. Please use your judgment about what the whole group should receive. We could easily overwhelm each other and so defeat the purpose of HUMANIST. Draconian methods are available for controlling a discussion group, but self-control seems preferable. This is not to discourage controversy -- quite the contrary -- but only what could become tiresome junk-mail. New members will be interested to know that ListServ at UTORONTO maintains an archive of messages for the past month. If you have just joined and want to know the recent history of discussions, enter the following command (or its equivalent on non-VM/CMS systems): TELL LISTSERV AT UTORONTO GET HUMANIST LOG8705 ListServ will then send you the contents of the monthly archive. ListServ accepts several other commands, for example to retrieve a list of the current members or to set various options. These are described in a document named LISTSERV MEMO. This and other documentation is available to you from your nearest ListServ node and is best fetched from there, since in that way the network is least burdened. You should consult with your local experts to discover the nearest ListServ; they will also be able to help you with whatever problems in the use of ListServ you may encounter. Once you have found the nearest node, type the following: TELL LISTSERV AT XXXXXX INFO ? The various documents available to you will then be listed. Suggestions about the running of HUMANIST or its possible relation to other means of electronic communication are very welcome. Please let me know what you think about these matters directly, at the address given below. Willard McCarty Centre for Computing in the Humanities University of Toronto (MCCARTY@UTOREPAS.BITNET) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 May 87 20:32:49 EDT Reply-To: POSTMASTER@IHNP4.UUCP Sender: HUMANIST Discussion Comments: To: HUMANIST@UTORONTO.BITNET From: POSTMASTER@IHNP4.UUCP Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 1 ----- Transcript of session follows ----- uux failed ( -1 ) 554 dartvax!psc90!jdg... unknown mailer error 1 ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: by ihnp4.ATT.COM id AA11989; 21 May 87 18:21:44 CDT (Thu) Received: from utai.UUCP by seismo.CSS.GOV (5.54/1.14) with UUCP id AA26570; Thu, 21 May 87 13:23:56 EDT Received: from gpu.utcs.toronto.edu ([142.2.1.1]) by ai.toronto.edu via TCP + with SMTP id AA23661; Thu, 21 May 87 13:03:20 EDT Received: from UTORONTO.BITNET by gpu.utcs.toronto.edu via RSCS with BSMTP id + AA27295; Thu, 21 May 87 13:06:06 EDT Message-Id: <8705211706.AA27295@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> Received: by UTORONTO (Mailer X1.23b) id 8360; Thu, 21 May 87 13:04:14 EDT Date: Thu, 21 May 87 13:01 EDT Reply-To: princeton!cunyvm.bitnet.UUCP!JMBHC Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: princeton!cunyvm.bitnet.UUCP!JMBHC To: Joel Goldfield In-Reply-To: HUMANIST Discussion -- Wednesday, 20 May 1987 1520-EST Yes, could I would like to receive your On Line Notes. My mailing address s: Joanne M. Badagliacco Director, Academic Computing Services Hunter College, CUNY 695 Park Avenue New York, NY 10021 Thanks very much. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 May 87 23:59:13 GMT Reply-To: CMI011%UK.AC.SOTON.IBM@AC.UK Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: CMI011%UK.AC.SOTON.IBM@AC.UK Is this the correct way to send stuff to HUMANIST? If so, can I make three suggestions as to the service, and add one genuine contribution. a) Those of us outside the IBM world are pretty much in the dark about what LISTSERV is.... (at least, I assume its IBMese 'cos it looks like nasty VM/CMS type commands). Could you, for the ignorant, explain what its all about? b) when I logged in tonight, I got 8 messages from HUMANIST which took a while to read and digest. And the thing has hardly started! Would not a weekly digest be more appropriate, such as other SIGs use? Otherwise I shall spend all my life reading mail! on the same tack, are copies of each of these messages really being sent individually across the Atlantic to readers in the UK? That seems pretty wasteful - could not someone in each country do a redistribution? c) would someone care to define an etiquette for contributions to this list? eg what is the maximum length a contribution should be? I ask because I am about to write a report on my last year's teaching of computing arts courses, which I would consider of vague interest to readers. If its 20 pages, I guess its too long, and obviously 1 page is fine - what about 6 pages? 8? How much are people prepared to read on a naasty orange VDU or whatever you have in front of you? d) Heres my real question, which I asked on the English HUMBUL bulletin board last year, and got no answers to. Do any of you out there teach Prolog in introductory courses to Arts students? if so, what do you set in the way of assignments? I need exercises for my students! sebastian rahtz ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 23 May 87 13:26:00 EDT Reply-To: "DD ROBERTS (PHILOSOPHY)" Sender: HUMANIST Discussion Comments: Warning -- RSCS tag indicates an origin of DCSMAIL@WATDCS From: "DD ROBERTS (PHILOSOPHY)" In September I will be teaching a course in which material stored on the computer will be used as a textbook. The material is previously unpublished manuscripts of a philosopher. This is the first time I have tried anything like this, and I wonder if anyone would be willing to give me a few hints as to how best I might organize things like: access to the material, format of the material, and so on. Thanks. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 23 May 87 17:22:36 edt Reply-To: Leslie Burkholder Sender: HUMANIST Discussion Comments: To: HUMANIST@UTORONTO.BITNET, DDROB@WATDCS.BITNET From: Leslie Burkholder Subject: Reading on-line You should probably print-out the material rather than have your students read it on-line. Some research (here, by Chris Haas) shows that reading for content is as good as reading from paper only when the screen is a black-on-white one with about 1000*1000 pixels. (These screens are found on Suns, eg.) Performance decreases when something like an IBM-PC screen is all that's available. In addition, there are problems in easily conducting searches in the text on-line (eg, Where did the author say something about that before?, What was the main point of this section supposed to be?) Leslie Burkholder ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 24 May 87 18:06:23 edt Reply-To: Leslie Burkholder Sender: HUMANIST Discussion Comments: To: HUMANIST@UTORONTO.BITNET Comments: cc: CMI011%UK.AC.SOTON.IBM@AC.UK From: Leslie Burkholder Subject: Prolog exercises for arts students How about the following? (1) Logic puzzles (the sort of thing found in many collections). These have the advantage of showing that Prolog programming is not pure logic programming. (2) A program that writes poetry (especially, haikus). An ELIZA program. (3) A parser for a fragment of English using Prolog definite clause grammars. (4) History databases and retrieval. Lots of stuff by people in various ways attached to the LCA micro-Prolog group at Imperial College (eg Richard Ennals). There are quite a few intros to Prolog written by people in this group but they are aimed, it seems, at primary and secondary rather than college students. (5) A spelling and grammar checker. (Distinguish "their" and "there"). (6) Something to play tic-tac-toe (noughts and crosses). (7) Various kinds of search problems (the farmer, the fox, the goose, and the grain; the waterjug problem). (I teach a logic and Prolog course to arts students.) Leslie Burkholder ========================================================================= Date: 25 May 1987, 00:13:40 EDT Reply-To: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS Members of HUMANIST continue to suggest to me that the flow of messages should be regulated by an editor, who would decide what should and should not be sent to the membership at large. I stubbornly continue to think that all members should be editors. So, I wonder, what do you want? To wait and see? To have an editor immediately? Let me propose an alternative. The immediate use of HUMANIST seems to be for asking rather specific questions, of great interest to the questioner but not so much, I suspect, to most others. My proposal is that all who reply to such a question should send their replies directly to the questioner, not to HUMANIST. The questioner would then gather together the responses, attach them to the original question, and post the results to HUMANIST, as he or she would see fit; or, perhaps, the questioner might offer the results to anyone who asks for them. McLuhan talked about the "global village"; we seem to be in the midst of one. As I know from living in a housing cooperative, making a suddenly created community work takes some thought and seems to involve much error. Which direction shall we blunder in? It has occurred to me that we could very effectively distribute reviews of software and other written work of interest among ourselves, using HUMANIST either before publication, as a means of getting comments, or as an indirect means of publication. So, another proposal: that we announce to the membership the availability of such things and then send them to whomever asks for them -- directly, not via HUMANIST. Since software tends to change so rapidly, electronic publication seems more suitable, though it still doesn't get as much credit. Are there any other such uses for HUMANIST? ========================================================================= Date: 26 May 1987, 23:03:02 EDT Reply-To: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS An interesting item available from our Computing Services: ======================================================================== February 13, 1987 Academic's Guide to Microcomputer Systems Second Edition The University of Toronto Computing Services (UTCS) announces the second edition of the Academic's Guide to Microcomputer Systems, a book on the application of microcomputer hardware and software in academia. The Guide is written primarily by the UTCS Microcomputer Support Group and is addressed to both the complete novice and the experienced user, although the emphasis is on introductory explanations. This edition of the Guide comprises eight volumes, varying in size. Volume 1 contains material of an introductory and general nature. In its section on hardware, this volume presents a detailed treatment of the typical components of a microcomputer, including the enhancements commonly required for academic applications. It points out the many pitfalls of selecting a machine and suggests means of avoiding them. The section on software divides academic software by type and supplies for each a general discussion. Among several useful appendixes is an extensive glossary of terms. Volume 2, "Hardware Evaluations," contains brief reviews of various commercially available systems, while each of the remaining volumes covers a particular type of software, offering detailed reviews of several of the best packages. The reviews are not limited to listings of features and commands but attempt to describe the basic approach of the package in terms of its advantages and limitations for academic work. The publisher plans to issue new editions more or less annually. Each edition will be available to individuals in hardcopy and to educational institutions in electronic form via BITNET. Colleges and universities interested in distributing the Guide to their students and faculty may obtain it in electronic form free of charge. There are two requirements only: a BITNET/NetNorth address and agreement to certain minimal conditions by a site administrator with signing authority. BITNET/NetNorth enquiries should be directed to Dr Martha Parrott (PARROTT at UTORONTO). Printed copies of the Guide are available at CAN$21 for the complete set (Volume 1 is available in a loose-leaf binding for an extra $1.50). We regret that, for mail orders, the entire set must be purchased; add $3 per set for postage in Canada, $6 in the U.S., and $8 overseas. Please send the appropriate amount, in Canadian funds, to Ms. Dale Wright, Information Office, University of Toronto Computing Services, 255 Huron Street, Room 350, Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5S 1A1. ========================================================================= Date: 26-MAY-1987 17:56:55 Reply-To: LOU%UK.AC.OXFORD.VAX1@AC.UK Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: LOU%UK.AC.OXFORD.VAX1@AC.UK Do all Humanists know about the Oxford Text Archive? For those who don't, I am currently trying to find out how to send a copy of our snapshot (listing all our machine-readable texts) to the fileserver at Toronto so that you can get hold of it from there direct; if I fail, let me know and I'll mail you one direct. For those who do, since this is our tenth year (at least) of operation, I've been worrying about the future. There follows some of the fruits of this in the form of a proposed Code of Practice, designed to liberalise and maybe improve the facilities we currently offer. I'd be very grateful for comments, suggestions, reactions, advice on it before I start actually doing anything about it. Lou Burnard A CODE OF PRACTICE FOR A DIGITAL TEXT ARCHIVE Draft L.D. Burnard 24 May 1987 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Purpose The purpose of a digital Text Archive is to promote and facilitate the computational analysis of literary and linguistic texts for scholarly and educational purposes. To that end, the Archive provides facilities for the long term storage and maintenance of machine readable texts, publicises information about the existence and availability of such texts and encourages so far as possible the distribution of such texts on a scholarly and non-profit making basis. The Guidelines Depositors of texts in the Archive and users of texts obtained from it are required to conform to the following guidelines which together constitute the DITA Code of Practice. 1. To use the text for purposes of scholarly research only and not for profit. To publish in an appropriate scholarly context the results of analyses carried out using the text. Where requested, to make such analyses available to the depositor of the text in advance of publication. 2. To acknowledge in such publications or other work carried out both the original depositor of the text and the Archive itself. 3. Not to hold the Archive liable for any errors of transcription discovered in the text, but to notify the Archive of all such errors as soon as possible. 4. Whenever substantial alteration enrichment or revision of the text as received has been performed, to inform the Archive of the nature and scope of such alterations. To make any such revised version of the text available to the Archive for redistribution. 5. Not to incorporate the text or any derivative of it in any commercially distributed electronic or other form of publication, except when explicitly so licensed by the Archive or the depositor of the text. Access to texts Texts deposited with the Archive are assigned to one of five Accessibility Categories, each with its own characteristics as defined below. Wherever possible, depositors are urged to place texts in category F or U. The Archive may impose maintenance charges for texts in categories A, X and 0, but will maintain texts in categories F and U free of charge. The depositor is assumed to be the owner of the materials deposited with the Archive, or to have obtained appropriate permissions from the copyright owner. The Archive will not accept responsibility for any breach of copyright by the depositor. F. Texts in category F are freely available for scholarly purposes. Copies may be obtained from the Archive on payment of a small fee to cover material costs, provided that the above Code of Practice is observed by the recipient of the text. Such recipients may make further copies of the texts for re-distribution on a non-commercial basis only, provided that (a) no charge is made for such re-distribution other than to cover material costs (b) each such copy is accompanied by a copy of the Code of Practice (c) all subsequent users conform to the Code of Practice U. Texts in category U are also freely available for scholarly purposes. Copies may be obtained from the Archive on payment of a small fee to cover material costs, provided that the above Code of Practice is observed by the recipient of the text. A record will be kept by the Archive of all such copies issued, which will be made available to the depositor on demand. No further copies may be made by recipients of the text without further reference to the Archive. A. Texts in category A are subject to the same conditions as those in category U, with the additional proviso that copies will be issued only on receipt of written instructions from the Depositor, which should not however be unreasonably withheld. X. Texts in category X have been deposited with the Text Archive for the benefit of specified local (Oxford) users only. They may not be redistributed; wherever possible however the Archive will be able to identify a source from which potential users can obtain their own copies of such texts. 0. Texts in category 0 are deposited with the Archive for security purposes only. They are available to the Depositor only and their existence in the Archive will not normally be publicized. END OF DOCUMENT ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 27 May 87 14:32:31 BST Reply-To: CAMERON%UK.AC.EXETER@AC.UK Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: CAMERON%UK.AC.EXETER@AC.UK Subject: HUMANIST NETWORK KEITH CAMERON DEPARTMENT OF FRENCH AND ITALIAN UNIVERSITY OF EXETER EXETER EX4 4QH GB 392-264209 INTERESTED IN KEEPING ABREAST OF DEVELOPMENTS ON HUMANIST NETWORK. Have and am working of computer-assisted concordances and research into development of expert system for teaching/correction of French and French phonetics. ========================================================================= Date: Wednesday, 27 May 1987 0955-EST Reply-To: JACKA@PENNDRLS Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: JACKA@PENNDRLS A number of you asked to be put on the mailing list for the Online Notes. If you have not received back issues of the Notes the reason is I cannot reach you electronically because the path out is not there! Please help me on this if you still wish to subscribe to the Notes....JACK ========================================================================= Date: 28 May 1987, 09:17:05 EDT Reply-To: ENGHUNT@UOGUELPH Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: ENGHUNT@UOGUELPH For the linguists, a neologism from computer land: When the system garbles a message, it can be said that the system GARBAGIFIED the message. . ========================================================================= Date: 29 May 1987, 23:26:24 EDT Reply-To: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS I have suggested in passing that HUMANIST could be used to distribute files as well as messages, e.g., reviews of software or other technical reports. With some prodding by a fellow HUMANIST, I've discovered that ListServ allows for centralized distribution of files. Files can be sent to, stored on, and fetched from a ListServ node relatively easily, so that a HUMANIST with information in high demand does not have to be bothered with sending it to each interested person directly. This service is available to us, and I suggest that we use it. So that we don't wear out our welcome with the good people of UTORONTO who sponsor our discussion group, I propose that we limit centralized storage to those files that are truly of general interest. Highly specialized material is better kept by the originator and sent out on request than maintained on an expensive storage medium in Toronto. So, if you have a candidate for centralized distribution, please send it to me; we can argue about its generality and then have it posted or not. In the language of a VM/CMS system, the following command will get you a list of the files maintained for HUMANIST: TELL LISTSERV AT UTORONTO SENDME HUMANIST FILELIST And this command will cause a selected file to be sent to you: TELL LISTSERV AT UTORONTO GET For translation of these commands into the language of your system, please consult with your local experts. I have discovered that in many cases wisdom is the cultivation of ignorance. Yours, W.M. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 30 May 87 11:42:45 BST Reply-To: CAMERON%UK.AC.EXETER@AC.UK Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: CAMERON%UK.AC.EXETER@AC.UK Subject: Filelist TELL LISTSERV AT UTORONTO SENDME HUMANIST FILELIST ========================================================================= Date: 30 May 1987, 16:24:10 EDT Reply-To: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS Sender: HUMANIST Discussion From: MCCARTY@UTOREPAS A colleague from Arizona has pointed out to me that pre- or co-publication of material on HUMANIST and in printed journals is or could be problematic. A journal editor might easily get upset, and whether the law would interfere or not, none of us wants to make that kind of enemy. I know there are some editors among you and, I suspect, several authors of review articles, so I would guess that as a group we are well qualified to talk about the issue. On the one hand publication in a printed journal is professionally advantageous if not necessary; on the other, the major journals can be far too slow for material of this nature. So far, electronic publication has not been well respected -- often for very good reasons. The informality of the medium (whether historically or intrinsically determined) seems to have encouraged sloppiness; one tends to dash off a note not caring very much if the language is just right. The primitive nature of many mainframe editors doesn't help. It seems to me that an open discussion of electronic publication would be an excellent beginning. What attitude would you editors take if a review article, say a very good one, were to appear first on HUMANIST? If electronic publication had to be in lieu of appearance in a respected journal, what would you authors do? What sort of guidelines might be worked out for authors and editors? How can we so raise the quality of electronic publication that it would gain the respect of wired and unwired scholars alike? Replies to these questions should be directed to all HUMANISTs, don't you think?