3.64 queries (106)

Wed, 24 May 89 21:47:55 EDT

Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 3, No. 64. Wednesday, 24 May 1989.

(1) Date: 23 May 1989 (30 lines)
From: Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@vm.epas.utoronto.ca>
Subject: marble and ivory

(2) Date: Wed, 24 May 89 10:43:02 EDT (37 lines)
From: Ellen Germain <EJGCU@CUVMB>
Subject: Micro applications for scholarly research

(3) Date: Wed, 24 May 89 23:34:22 +0300 (14 lines)
Subject: Catholics and Fascism

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Date: 23 May 1989
From: Willard McCarty <MCCARTY@vm.epas.utoronto.ca>
Subject: marble and ivory

This is a request for help that may also be taken as an indirect comment
on the continuing need for human filtering in a world increasingly rich
in data.

I am looking for places in Greek or Latin literature where the
metaphorical qualities of marble and ivory are manifested. The specific
problem I have is in the interpretation of a passage in Ovid's
Metamorphoses (3.418ff), where Narcissus is compared to a statue of
Parian marble and his reflection is said to have an ivory neck.
Elsewhere in that work, marble is something cold, rigid, and colourless
(e.g., those who see the Medusa's head turn into marble), ivory is
comparatively soft and is frequently found in erotic contexts
(Pygmalion) or is otherwise linked to flesh (Pelops). I would feel much
more comfortable in drawing what seems to me the obvious conclusion if I
had passages that support such a distinction. Does anyone know where to

Yes, I have an Ibycus at my fingertips and the TLG and PHI disks, but as
the amount of potential evidence is likely to be large and as this is a
minor point in a large and long overdue project, some human guidance
would be appreciated.

Thanks very much.

Willard McCarty
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Date: Wed, 24 May 89 10:43:02 EDT
From: Ellen Germain <EJGCU@CUVMB>
Subject: Micro applications for scholarly research

Someone in my department needs to come up with "computers in the
humanities" demos for humanities professors in order to
attract them to using computers. We're interested in getting
them to use micros. I'd like to hear about applications that people
have running (or simply ideas for applications) that are useful
for scholars in the humanities.

I know about projects such as Perseus and Stanford's
Shakespeare/Theatre Project. Most of the micro projects seem
to be instructional tools such as those, but I'd also be very
interested in hearing about any micro projects or tools that
people think would help scholars do their research. Are there
such applications? Can micros really help humanities
scholars with their research beyond the level of making the act
of writing easier by providing word processing capabilities?
I know of text analysis tools, but aside from those, what other
micro applications exist that would lure scholars into using

One reason I'm interested in research tools somewhat more than
instructional tools is that they seem rarer, and harder to come
up with. Also, sad as it may be, I suspect that professors will
be more inclined to use micros if we demonstrate that it can help
them do their research, rather than simply presenting them as
instructional tools to help with their teaching.


Ellen Germain
Columbia University

Internet: ellen@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu
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Date: Wed, 24 May 89 23:34:22 +0300
Subject: Catholics and Fascism

Is anyone aware of social-historical research recently done on the relative
success of the Nazi party in Catholic areas of Germany,such as Baden and
the Black-Forest region? This area seems unique in this respect,due to
major Nazi gains in the early 30's,without Hitler ever showing-up there,
no effort by the NSDAP's central bodies,and much less success that the
party was able to register in other Catholic parts of Germany.
Will appreciate any further information beyond the usual treatment in the
literature of "Who voted for Hitler",including specific elections analyis.
Shlomo Aronson,ARONSA@HBUNOS
MAny thanks and regards,Shlomo