3.861 etc. and language; teaching Joyce (124)

Willard McCarty (MCCARTY@vm.epas.utoronto.ca)
Mon, 18 Dec 89 08:26:05 EST

Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 3, No. 861. Monday, 18 Dec 1989.

(1) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 89 21:35 EST (24 lines)
From: J. K. McDonald <MCDOJK@QUCDN>
Subject: Etc. and all the rest

(2) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 89 21:07:04 EST (8 lines)
Subject: Re: 3.845 etc. (88)

(3) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 89 17:25 EST (67 lines)
Subject: Teaching Joyce; June panel at Monaco

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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 89 21:35 EST
From: J. K. McDonald <MCDOJK@QUCDN>
Subject: Etc. and all the rest

Willard has reminded us that no expressive device in the English (or any
human) language should be willed out of existence. Speaking of the
"caetera", it is still harder by far to include in our languages those
expressive devices which we know are possible but which we fail to
develop; or which are available but are left unused. To Willard's
evocative suggestion, I'd like to add a couple which touch on grammar.

The first is light-hearted: our lack of distinction between habitual
present and actual present. My example is "If you drink, don't drive!"
I visualize the parking lot of the liquor store crowded with people
suspended between their bottles and their car-keys.

The second is heavy-hearted: our failure to express the partitive
construction. "School children are on drugs." "Men are misogynists."
The world would be a lot more peaceful and much less mischievous if
these affirmations were rephrased. Why don't speakers of other
languages, those who make the partitive distinction, climb all over
us for this defect in our linguistic culture?

Jim McDonald
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Date: Sun, 17 Dec 89 21:07:04 EST
Subject: Re: 3.845 etc. (88)

hear hear on etcetera. the fact that some people abuse it does not mean
that the usage is obsolete or worthless. if i give some examples of a list
and don't want to givew the whole list why shouldn't i write etcetera.
how did the nigerian know that it was a reflection of himself?
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 89 17:25 EST
Subject: Teaching Joyce; June panel at Monaco

The Twelfth International James Joyce Symposium will
be held in Monaco, 11-16 June, cosponsored by the International
Joyce Symposium and the Princess Grace Irish Library, under
the patronage of H.S.H. Rainier III, Prince of Monaco.

Among the many panels and workshops at the conference,
two sessions are scheduled to consider the teaching of Joyce's
works. Erwin Steinberg and Kathy McCormick (Carenegie-Mellon U.)
are chairing a program which will consider the teaching of
*Ulysses* from their vantage point in editing the forthcoming
MLA volume on that topic. I have been assigned the task of
coordinating a second session on other aspects of teaching the
works of Joyce and hope to promote a discussion session on
the practical problems of selecting and presenting Joyce's works
to first readers, especially in undergraduate literature courses.

Pramatic pedagogy for Joyeceans may include some of these
questions: How can a comprehensive view of Joyce's achievement be
developed in a survey course? How many novels can be introduced
in standard courses and in what way can they be adapted to the
undergraduate experience? Do anthology fragments create faulty
impressions? Can instructors develop abbreviated versions from available
editions without violating the sacred text? How much and what kind of
critical theory can be effective in introductions for the new reader? How
effective are the enhancements of films, recordings, video tapes, slides,
maps, and elementary computer functions? (More advanced applications
of computer technology to Joyce studies will be considered in a separate
panel under the direction of Michael O'Shea, Drexel U.)

Although we hope to develop an active floor discussion, we
shall use a few brief presentations to stimulate reactions and
focus on sub-topics If you plan to attend the Monaco session and
have ideas for this session which you wish to share, please
communicate your interest to me. (To be listed on the program,
panelists should be members of the International Joyce Foundation;
information will be provided on request.) If you are not involved
in Joyce studies but have colleagues interested in our concerns,
please pass along this information. Even if you or they do not
intend to travel to Monaco, we shall be happy to receive informa-
tion about innovative approaches or reports of experiences which
we can share. Significant reactions can be reported back to the

Listings of panels should appear later this month in the
*James Joyce Newsletter* but the directors of the academic program
are urging a speedy development of plans--so I am using bitnet
resources to solicit expressions of interest. Symposium organizers
encourage the formation of panels with participants from more than
one country, and a discussion of experiences in teaching Joyce will
obviously be enhanced by variety of perspectives. Inquiries from
thoughout the network will be welcome.

John C. Boggs
Department of English
University of Richmond, Virginia 23173


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