3.1026 Notes and Queries (136)

Willard McCarty (MCCARTY@vm.epas.utoronto.ca)
Thu, 8 Feb 90 21:50:29 EST

Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 3, No. 1026. Thursday, 8 Feb 1990.

(1) Date: 08 Feb 90 16:47 -0330 (24 lines)
From: mnewton@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Humanist Posting

(2) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 90 12:02:30 EST (33 lines)
From: Jody_Gilbert@cc.sfu.ca

(3) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 90 15:27:50 CST (18 lines)
From: Norman Hinton <SSUBIT12@UIUCVMD>
Subject: French periodical

(4) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 90 22:49 EST (9 lines)
Subject: RE: 3.1016 various queries (114)

(5) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 90 12:47:15 EST (24 lines)
From: "Ken Steele, University of Toronto" <KSTEELE@vm.epas.utoront
Subject: Red in Tooth and Claw...

(6) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 90 09:56 EST (26 lines)
Subject: Tooth and Claw

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Date: 08 Feb 90 16:47 -0330
From: mnewton@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Humanist Posting

Our college is planning to expand to a four year degree
granting institution. We are at present designing degree programs
that would lead to a liberal arts/science degree of an
interdisciplinary nature. On behalf of those of us here who teach
in the humanities I am looking at existing programs in the
humanities that would give undergraduates a wide but thorough
grounding in a range of subjects that might come under the
heading of something like "the Western Cultural Tradition."

If you are involved in such a program I would like to hear
from you and would be pleased to receive course outlines and

Michael Newton
Sir Wilfred Grenfell College
Memorial University of Newfoundland
Corner Brook, Newfoundland, A2H 6P9
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 90 12:02:30 EST
From: Jody_Gilbert@cc.sfu.ca

Is anyone out there interested in starting a mailing list on the topic
of Thomas Pynchon? With the publication of _Vineland_, I think Pynchon
is going to become more popular. I and several of my colleagues, both
locally and across the wires, have things we would like to discuss about
Pynchon in general and _Vineland_ in particular.

The problem here is that our E-mail mavins at Simon Fraser University
tell me that we do not have LISTSERV capability, and even if I decided
to forward all the messages manually, creating an off-campus mail group
is tedious and unreliable if not improbable. So......What I need is
some generous Pynchophiliac to volunteer the services of her LISTSERVER
and set up a Pynchon mailing list, and then announce it over HUMANIST,
ENGLISH, LITERARY, and any other list or E-journal they can think of.
Any takers?

Jody Gilbert
Department of English
Simon Fraser University
Burnaby, B.C., Canada
V5A 1S6
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 90 15:27:50 CST
From: Norman Hinton <SSUBIT12@UIUCVMD>
Subject: French periodical

I am trying to find Cahier 2 of _Mythes, Croyances et religions dans
le monde Anglo-Saxon_ (specifically, an article on Chaucer's Prioress
by Yvette Salviati, pp. 13-29 of that issue). Our Int. Library Loan,
usually able to find most anything, drew a blank. I tried OCLC and found
only 1 holding in all of the U.S.A., at Southern Illinois University at
Carbondale----and they have only Cahier 4.

The Chaucer article looks very useful for a study I am just starting on
the Prioress. If anyone knows of a library in Canada (or elsewhere on
this side of the Atlantic) that has the journal, I would be most appre-
ciative. (If I could get to Internet, I'd look myself, but while our
MIS folks say it can be done, they have been in no hurry to make Internet
available to faculty....)
[Thanks to the following for locating the tooth. I preserve only
one of the actual replies. --W.M.]

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 90 22:49 EST
Subject: Tooth and Claw

Robin Cover asks for the source of the quotation "Nature, red in
tooth and claw." Tennyson uses the line in section 56 of
"In Memoriam A.H.H."

Man, her last work, who seemed so fair,
Such splendid purpose in his eyes,
Who rolled the psalm to wintry skies,
Who built him fanes of fruitless prayer,

Who trusted God was love indeed
And love Creation's final law --
Though Nature, red in tooth and claw
With ravine, shrieked against his creed --

The poem was written between 1833 and 1850, years before Darwin's
Origin of Species (1859).

Thanks, Robin, for the opportunity to think about an issue of significance.

Mike Neuman
Georgetown University