4.0128 Faerie Queene; What is Man?; Vogt (3/51)

Elaine Brennan & Allen Renear (EDITORS@BROWNVM.BITNET)
Fri, 25 May 90 17:12:44 EDT

Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 4, No. 0128. Friday, 25 May 1990.


(1) Date: Fri, 25 May 90 10:12:22 EDT (13 lines)
From: Germaine Warkentin <WARKENT@vm.epas.utoronto.ca>
Subject: Faerie Queene

(2) Date: Fri, 25 May 90 15:45 EDT (28 lines)
From: "Hardy M. Cook" <HMCOOK@BOE.TOWSON.EDU>
Subject: What is man?

(3) Date: Thu, 24 May 90 23:10 EST (18 lines)
From: O MH KATA MHXANHN <MCCARTHY@CUA>
Subject: wie die Leber die Galle...

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Date: Fri, 25 May 90 10:12:22 EDT
From: Germaine Warkentin <WARKENT@vm.epas.utoronto.ca>
Subject: Faerie Queene

A pedantic note in support of Mary Dee Harris: Spenserians tend to
divide on whether to count the "Two Cantoes of Mutabilitie" as the
seventh book or not, and she must have studied with the one of the
"yeas" rather than the "noes". With respect to longer works: when I was
a grad student studying for the infamous U. of T. "Generals" we tended
to award each other imaginary buttons when we knocked off one of the
biggies, as in "Have you got you _Clarissa_ button yet?" Before I get
into my famed variation on the "Ubi sunt" topos I think I better sign
off. Germaine.
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Date: Fri, 25 May 90 15:45 EDT
From: "Hardy M. Cook" <HMCOOK@BOE.TOWSON.EDU>
Subject: What is man?

In response to Robin C. Cover's inquiry about parallels to the biblical
"What is man," let me offer two from Shakespeare. The first occurs in
the following exchange between Lafew and Parolles in ALL'S WELL ENDS
WELL, 2.3.192-195:

<Laf.> Are you companion to the Count Rossillion?
<Par.> To any count, to all counts: to what is man.
<Laf.> To what is count's man. Count's master is of
another style.

The second, surely better known, occurs in Hamlet's soliloquy from
4.4.32-35:

How all occasions do inform against me,
And spur my dull revenge! What is a man,
If his chief good and market of his time
Be but to sleep and feed? a beast, no more.

The first seems ironic; the second might echo Job's complaint.

Hardy M. Cook
Bowie State University

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Date: Thu, 24 May 90 23:10 EST
From: O MH KATA MHXANHN <MCCARTHY@CUA>
Subject: wie die Leber die Galle...

Just happened to be browsing through Ludwig Buechner's _Kraft und
Stoff_ during vacation last summer, and recall that, in a chapter
entitled "Der Gedanke," that author refers to the materialist
in question, Niklas Vogt (1755-1836).

Buechner quotes Vogt thus:

"Die Gedanken stehen in demselben Verhaeltnis zu dem Gehirn, wie die
Galle zur Leber oder der Urin zu den Nieren."

Hope this much is of help.

W, McCarthy
Washington, D.C.