4.0515 Rs: Exporting (w/ footnotes) from WordPerfect (7/144)
Elaine Brennan & Allen Renear (EDITORS@BROWNVM.BITNET)
Thu, 20 Sep 90 19:25:17 EDT
Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 4, No. 0515. Thursday, 20 Sep 1990.
(1) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 90 16:17:25 EDT (23 lines)
From: John Unsworth <JMUEG@NCSUVM>
Subject: Re: 4.0507 Qs: ... WP footnotes ...
(2) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 90 14:24:58 MDT (17 lines)
From: Skip Knox <DUSKNOX@IDBSU>
Subject: Re: 4.0507 Qs: ... Exporting WP footnotes ...
(3) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 90 08:46 CDT (21 lines)
From: Bill Kupersmith <BLAWRKWY@UIAMVS>
Subject: WordPerfect to ASCII
(4) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 90 09:00:42 EDT (29 lines)
From: Ken Steele <KSTEELE@vm.epas.utoronto.ca>
Subject: Re: 4.0507 Qs: ... Exporting WP footnotes
(5) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 90 07:42:20 EDT (18 lines)
From: Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM>
Subject: Converting WP 4.2 to ASCII
(6) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 90 08:37 MET (21 lines)
From: "Pieter C. Masereeuw" <PIETER@ALF.LET.UVA.NL>
Subject: Saving footnotes in WP files
(7) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 90 19:00:31 EDT (15 lines)
From: Allen Renear <ALLEN@BROWNVM>
Subject: WP50-L: A WordPerfect Listserv List
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 90 16:17:25 EDT
From: John Unsworth <JMUEG@NCSUVM>
Subject: Re: 4.0507 Qs: ACH News?; Exporting WP footnotes; MAC CALL
The answer to Bob Kraft's question about how to export WordPerfect
footnotes to ASCII format is this: define a Dos Text printer for your
copy of WP (if you don't find the Dos Text Printer definition, Standard
Printer will do); next, edit the definition so that output is directed
to a file rather than to a port (e.g., to "dos.txt" rather than to
LPT1:); finally, print the file using that definition. The resulting
file (dos.txt) will contain all headers, footers, endnotes, and
footnotes--all embedded text, in short. It will also contain hard page
breaks and spaces or hard returns for margins (Left-margin and Top-
Bottom, respectively): for that reason, it might be a good idea to set
the margins back to 0" right and left before printing, so you don't have
all those spaces to take out. You may also find that underlining needs
to be cleaned up (removed from between the lines), depending on which
printer definition you used. Note that you can't just use your existing
definition reset to output to a file: you need something really basic
like the Dos Text Printer so that there won't be a lot of formatting
codes sent to the file along with the text. By the way, the output file
will be ASCII text, not WP-format. Also, the same
procedure works with releases of WP after 4.2. --John Unsworth
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 90 14:24:58 MDT
From: Skip Knox <DUSKNOX@IDBSU>
Subject: Re: 4.0507 Qs: ACH News?; Exporting WP footnotes; MAC CALL
This isn't going to be what Bob Kraft wants, I think, but it's the only
electronic way to retain the footnotes: print to disk. I can't even
remember where you set that in 4.2 - it's been too long - but I do
remember doing it. The resulting file will have the footnotes at the
bottom, but of course they won't be real footnotes any more. The real
question is, what does the person at the other end want to do with
the document?
Ellis 'Skip' Knox, Ph.D.
Historian, Data Center Associate
Boise State University DUSKNOX@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU
Boise, Idaho 83725
(208) 385-1315
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 90 08:46 CDT
From: Bill Kupersmith <BLAWRKWY@UIAMVS>
Subject: WordPerfect to ASCII
The trick in preserving the notes in WordPerfect files
when converting to ASCII is to print the WordPerfect file to
disk. You have to define one of your printers as a DOS printer,
and create a filename for the output file.
Then you print the file just as you normally would, only
instead of a hard copy printout you create a formatted
ASCII file. Of course you lose the underlining, and get
some features that you don't want, such as page breaks, but
these are quite easily edited out.
I can't believe the WordPerfect people don't know this, but
perhaps they went out of their way to make WordPerfect
incompatible with other wordprocessing systems.
--Bill Kupersmith
University of Iowa
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 90 09:00:42 EDT
From: Ken Steele <KSTEELE@vm.epas.utoronto.ca>
Subject: Re: 4.0507 Qs: ACH News?; Exporting WP footnotes; MAC CALL
In response to Bob Kraft's query regarding WordPerfect footnotes for the
network: I've been faced with the same problem when posting contributed
Shakespeare or Renaissance papers to the SHAKSPER fileserver, and have
always found the best solution to be a macro which invokes footnote edit,
block moves the note, replaces the note's location with some unique
character, and moves it to a blank second document as a paragraph
beginning with some unique character.
If you write the macro properly, it can reinvoke itself at its end, hence
proceeding through the document copying notes to the other. In the end,
you'll have the original document, with asterisks (for instance) at the
location of each footnote, and a second document of endnotes, with
asterisks (or something) marking the beginning of each note. A quick
matter of numbering the asterisks in each document and appending the
second document to the first, and you have a document with endnotes.
This is perhaps not the most elegant method, but it's quick and easy.
Plain ASCII documents, with no page breaks, simply don't suit themselves
to footnotes at all. Either you place the footnotes in parentheses
(which I think would horribly disrupt the document) or as endnotes.
This method will work with any version of WP -- if the versions 5.x
have a simpler utility, I haven't read that far in the manual yet.
Ken Steele
University of Toronto
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 90 07:42:20 EDT
From: Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM>
Subject: Converting WP 4.2 to ASCII
Bob Kraft asks about converting a document in WordPerfect 4.2 to "net-
compatible" form, keeping footnotes. This would *appear* to be a job
for TextOut/5. It does this excellently with 5.0 and 5.1 files, but
I have not tried 4.2.
It is availble from BBSs and Simtel20 at TXTOUT13. The author also
monitors the WP50-L list and can be reached from Bitnet at
72446.2704@compuserve.com.
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Central Michigan University Compuserve: 70701,520
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48859 USA UUCP: {psuvax1}!cmuvm.bitnet!3zlufur
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 90 08:37 MET
From: "Pieter C. Masereeuw" <PIETER@ALF.LET.UVA.NL>
Subject: Saving footnotes in WP files
In reply to Bob Kraft's query:
>Does anyone know how to save the footnotes in converting
>a Word Perfect 4.2 file to ASCII for distribution on the
>networks?
You might try to print the file to disk using the Dos text printer as
current printer definition.
Keys are: "Shift-F7", "4", "3". Now, select the printer number of the Dos
text printer. After this, select the right "printer port" (option "8") and
enter a file name.
Pieter Masereeuw
University of Amsterdam
The Netherlands
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 90 19:00:31 EDT
From: "Allen Renear, CIS, Brown Univ. 401-863-7312" <ALLEN@BROWNVM>
Subject: Word Perfect List
Humanist Word Perfect users might be interested in subscribing to the
WP50-L, mentioned above, which is the list for discussing WordPerfect.
It is fairly active and keeps extensive logs. It is also a good guide
to what's on the SIMTEL20 archives related to WordPerfect -- which
includes some stuff to support exporting and conversion.
My favorite, of course, is WP2LATEX.EXE. I sleep better just
knowing it exists.
A couple listserv peers for WP50-L are UBVM and HEARN -- they
will route your subscription request to the nearest WP50 peer.
-- Allen allen@brownvm.brown.edu allen@brownvm.bitnet