4.0653 Rs: Shipwreck Topos; Parks/Landscape Studies (2/39)

Elaine Brennan & Allen Renear (EDITORS@BROWNVM.BITNET)
Mon, 29 Oct 90 21:11:14 EDT

Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 4, No. 0653. Monday, 29 Oct 1990.

(1) Date: 28 Oct 1990 8:34 AM CST (25 lines)
Subject: Shipwreck Topos

(2) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 90 14:36:25 EST (14 lines)
From: "David R. Chesnutt" <N330004@UNIVSCVM>
Subject: Re: 4.0645 Lists?: Park/Landscape Studies...

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Date: 28 Oct 1990 8:34 AM CST
Subject: Shipwreck Topos

Many thanks to W. McCarthy, Alan McKenzie, Lawrence Stepelevich, and
Peter Cosgrove for helpful advice on the shipwreck topos in Dryden's
_Threnodia Augustalis._ I'm sure Cosgrove's suggestion of Lucretius
_De rerum natura_ 2. 1-4 as the proximate source for Dryden is
correct, as he had just published his translation of the beginning of
Lucretius second book in _Sylvae._ It's annoying to realize that I
had the source right under my nose, but then the editors of vol. 3 of
the California editon of Dryden didn't realize that either. I've
little doubt Hume and Hegel were recalling the same passage; Lucretius
is surely the sort of author Hume would have liked. As some
recompense, let me offer one other example from the Restoration
period, the opening stanzas of Lord Rochester's "The Disabled
Debauchee," where the impotent rake is compared to a retired admiral
observing a sea battle from ashore, probably picking up on Lucretius'
"suave etiam belli certamina magna tueri" (2. 6). Many thanks, --Bill
Kupersmith, University of Iowa
[The responses referred to are in recent postings to C18-L@PSUVM,
a list for 18th century studies. -- Allen]

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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 90 14:36:25 EST
From: "David R. Chesnutt" <N330004@UNIVSCVM>
Subject: Re: 4.0645 Lists?: Park/Landscape Studies; Language Teaching

Re: Parks/Landscape Architecture

Charles C. McLaughlin and Charles E. Beveridge are editing the papers
of Frederick Law Olmsted, one of the best known 19th US landscape
architects. They have published at least four volumes of Olmsted's
letters and they have organized an association which studies the
public parks designed by Olmsted. I suspect that neither has an
E-Mail address. McLaughlin's mailing address is 6702 Maple Avenue,
Chevy Chase, MD 20815.