11.0480 imaginary languages

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Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 11, No. 480.
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[1] From: Lily Diaz <lily@mlab.uiah.fi> (7)
Subject: Re: 11.0466 imaginary languages?

[2] From: Qsums <Qsums@aol.com> (8)
Subject: Re: 11.0474 imaginary languages

[3] From: Willard McCarty <Willard.McCarty@kcl.ac.uk> (21)
Subject: imaginary languages

Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 16:03:56 +0300
From: Lily Diaz <lily@mlab.uiah.fi>
Subject: Re: 11.0466 imaginary languages?

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About imaginary languages...

In his short story "Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius" the argentinian writer
Jorge Luis Borges describes some of the features of the different languages
spoken in the imaginary planet of Tlön.

Lily Díaz

Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 13:25:11 EST
From: Qsums <Qsums@aol.com>
Subject: Re: 11.0474 imaginary languages

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From: Qsums <Qsums@aol.com>

Has Anthony Burgess's invented language 'Nadsat' in A CLOCKWORK ORANGE been

A comparison of samples of Nadsat with Anthony Burgess's ordinary discourse
from the novel is made in Jill Farringdon's ANALYSING FOR AUTHORSHIP, pp.

Michael Farringdon

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 22:35:09 +0000
From: Willard McCarty <Willard.McCarty@kcl.ac.uk>
Subject: imaginary languages

The question of imaginary languages softly metamorphoses into the question
of imaginative language, private languages, fictional lexicons and so on.
David Grossman's masterful <title>See: Under Love</title> comes immediately
to mind, and his earlier <title>The Book of Intimate Grammar</title>, and
Amos Oz's latest, <title>Panther in the Basement</title>, to name a few
Hebrew novels only. Then there's the Kazar lexicon, a book I disliked enough
to manage to lose it at some point in my moves eastward. In other words,
this has all the earmarks of a very fruitful topic, extending outward from
fiction as we name it into the writings and babblings of the severely
dysfunctional, the cliques of literary theorists and other omphaloscopic
academics who talk only to each other, almost any pair or larger grouping of
people who know each other well, and so on. An interesting side-branch of
the topic takes in the voluminous and necessarily paradoxical writings on
the unsayable, and the saying of it, e.g. by such masters as Chuang Tzu, or
practitioners of instruction by koan, as in "Before Abraham was I am". One
gets quickly lost, or perhaps it's found. In any case, good luck.

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