14.0608 XML editors

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                   Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 14, No. 608.
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       [1] From: "P. T. Rourke" <ptrourke@mediaone.net> (14)
             Subject: XML editors?

       [2] From: Wendell Piez <wapiez@mulberrytech.com> (49)
             Subject: Re: 14.0601 Shared Histories? XML editors? Fraktur

             Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:29:44 +0000
             From: "P. T. Rourke" <ptrourke@mediaone.net>
             Subject: XML editors?

    I find XML writer quite suits my needs; I use it and HTML-Kit exclusively.
    Just make sure that you upgrade your XML parser to MSXML 3 first. (Although
    Xalan is a better choice for parser; so you might prefer to add Xalan as a
    user tool instead).

    I also often use the XML validator plug in for HTML-Kit, which provides
    somewhat better feedback when validating (and I like the HTML-Kit interface
    better, especially as it allows configuration of HTML-Tidy - which also
    "tidies" XML - directly from the preferences dialogue).

    I've tried XML Spy, but I don't like the "Visual" interface much, myself.
    Frankly, if I were teaching a class, I'd use HTML-Kit - but only if I could
    figure out a way to add the MSXML3 and XALAN command lines as plug-ins,
    which I haven't had time to do yet.

    Patrick Rourke

             Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:32:42 +0000
             From: Wendell Piez <wapiez@mulberrytech.com>
             Subject: Re: 14.0601 Shared Histories? XML editors? Fraktur software?

    Hi Susan,

    Unfortunately, the "lite" version of XML Spy seems to have gone away, and
    they are now asking more for the "real thing."

    Other editors of that species, what one might call a "well-formed" editor
    (as distinguished from structured editors such as XMetaL which, for all
    their virtues, are less amenable to use as development environments) are
    .... okay ... but personally I haven't found anything yet as comfortable as
    my old text editor (TextPad) wired up with some XML tools (i.e. parser, XSL
    processor available from the Tools menu). It's not "XML aware" exactly; the
    user has to supply that -- but the parser/validator is just one click away,
    and it's packed with other useful features.

    XML Writer was pretty nice, when I tried it (some time ago now) -- I guess
    the main reason I stick with TextPad is its support for regular
    expressions, which I use all the time. This may not be needed for your
    classes, so I'd look at XML Writer if you don't want to spring for XML Spy,
    which seems to be the industry leader in this particular area.

    If you want to know how a "power user" wires up TextPad, let me know off
    list. I dare say any of several other text editors favored by programmers
    (PFE etc.) would have similar capabilities.


       At 09:43 PM 1/19/01 +0000, you wrote:
    > Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 20:41:38 +0000
    > From: Susan Hockey <s.hockey@ucl.ac.uk>
    > >
    >I am looking for a suitable XML editor for use by students
    >doing the XML option on our MA in Electronic Communication
    >and Publishing. These students are mostly from the humanities
    >and they do their practical work in a Windows NT4 computer lab.
    >They need to get some practical experience of marking up documents,
    >DTDs, schemas, and stylesheets with CSS and XSL. I would like
    >them to use a Windows-based XML-aware editor and am looking
    >for some suitable low-cost software. Does anyone have experience
    >of products such as XMLWriter, Stilo Webwriter or the "lite" version
    >of XMLSpy? Is there anything else I should be looking at?
    >Susan Hockey
    >Professor of Library and Information Studies
    >School of Library, Archive and Information Studies
    >University College London
    >Gower Street
    >London WC1E 6BT
    >Phone: 020 7679 2477; Fax 020 7383 0557
    >E-mail: s.hockey@ucl.ac.uk

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