18.402 scholarship and Google

               Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 18, No. 402.
       Centre for Computing in the Humanities, King's College London
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   [1] From: "Joseph Raben" <joeraben_at_cox.net> (291)
         Subject: Re: 18.399 scholarship and Google

   [2] From: "pjmoran" <noci_at_cox.net> (14)
         Subject: Re: 18.399 scholarship and Google

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         Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 08:29:07 +0000
         From: "Joseph Raben" <joeraben_at_cox.net>
         Subject: Re: 18.399 scholarship and Google

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Francois Lachance's response to my initial query on the usefulness of=20
scholar.google, particularly to my need for leads to student participation=
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in an adult seminar on "Alice in Wonderland as a Prism for Viewing=20
Victorian Society," has encouraged me to look more closely at one item=20
which I had previously passed by on the assumption that a journal on=20
pediatric medicine would not offer anything especially useful. That=20
consideration of the concept of childhood among Victorians did,=20
surprisingly, suggest some relevant topics for my seminar, as did another=20
article on the same scholar.google page discussing the association of=20
microscopes with the Victorian love of fantasy, particularly as expressed=20
in paintings of fairies. This article, when connected with comments in my=20
recently acquired copy of More Annotated Alice, which mentions Carroll's=20
collection of microscopes, telescopes and binoculars and the episode in the=
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railway car where the guard peers at Alice through binoculars, may also=20
open a profitable line of investigation for the seminar.

On the basic question, however, of scholar.google's usefulness as a=20
scholarly tool, I am not yet persuaded that a resource the depends on web=20
crawling and therefore includes references to any mention of Wonderland,=20
usually as a metaphor for some scientific phenomenon, or any reference to=20
an Alice, whatever her full name, and that furthermore demands=20
subscriptions or fees for articles with no more information upfront than a=
=20
title and author can serve scholarship to a degree that outweighs its cost=
=20
and inconvenience, to say nothing about its limitations. Its restriction to=
=20
material available through webcrawling at a time when the major print=20
resources for scholars are jealously guarding themselves against online=20
intrusion would seem to prevent google.scholar from becoming a major=20
resource in the near future. Any evidence refuting this judgment will be=20
sincerely welcomed.

Joe Raben

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Date: 12/04/04 02:43:50
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          Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 07:28:12 +0000
           From:=20
<mailto:lachance_at_origin.chass.utoronto.ca>lachance_at_origin.chass.utoronto.ca=
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(Francois Lachance)
           Subject: Search Strings Redux Re: 18.390 scholarship and Google

Joseph Raben
in Humanist 18.390 scholarship and Google
wrote

<quote> so far to my request for evidence that Scholar.Google is a useful
tool for scholarly research, I have seen nothing yet that really
responds.</quote>

I don't know if what follows will give satisfaction or provide evidence
of a sighting of usefulness. >

The question first posted in 18.382 Literary references to Alice in
Scholar.Google? read:

<quote> Has anyone found really scholarly material through this resource?
</quote>

and in its context was perhaps meant to not just refer to scholarly
material in general but schalarly material relating to this particular
quest:

<cite><quote>With Google Scholar, using search string "Alice's Adventures
in Wonderland" one does access scholarly resources. One does not however
access resources or material that address the topic referenced as "Alice
in Wonderland as a Prism for Viewing Victorian Society."</quote> (See
Humanist 18.382). </cit>

We have currently no report on the search strings that were used in the
attempt to locate both real and useful scholarly material. I can report
that search string "Victorian Society Alice Wonderland" does however bring
items that may perhaps be of interest, of use and of real scholarly value.
For example:

     Archives of Disease in Childhood 2003;88:545-548
     Once upon a time ...
     E Storr and M C J Rudolf
     Abstract:
     In this, the first of two articles discussing literature for and about
     children, we will be considering how writing for the young has changed,
     reflecting different and evolving perspectives on childhood.

     Interdisciplinary Science Reviews, March 2000, vol. 25, no. 3, pp.
     211-219(9)
     Monster soup: the microscope and Victorian fantasy
     Seibold-bultmann U.
     Abstract:
     The Victorian predilection for the grotesque owed more than is commonly
     recognised to nature's microdimension. During the heyday of natural
     history in Britain (c. 1820=AD70), the microscope revealed myriads of=
  shapes
     and creatures so utterly unfamiliar that writers on the subject resorted
     to flamboyant prose in order to render them intelligible. This had
     reverberations not least for the visual arts. The metaphors chosen by
     authors attempting to describe the microscopic world soon developed a
     visual presence, with supernatural features being projected even onto
     illustrations in supposedly scientific contexts. At the same time, such
     illustrations share certain motifs and/or stylistic characteristics with
     fairy paintings and illustrations by artists such as Daniel Maclise
     (1806-70), Richard Dadd (1817-86), Sir Joseph Noel Paton (1821=AD1901),=
  and
     Arthur Hughes (1832=AD1915). In view of this, the fact that the golden=
  age
     of British fairy painting coincided chronologically with the Victorian
     craze for microscopy seems to be the result of more than mere chance. If
     we acknowledge this, we must also ask whether, in the mid nineteenth
     century, points of contact between microscopy and the visual arts led to=
  a
     liberation or else a limitation of fantasy.

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> As I have often stated, a touchstone humanist text is the De Copia by
> Erasmus. Very very applicable to the creation of variations on search
> strings.

--
Francois Lachance, Scholar-at-large
<http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~lachance>http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~lachan=
ce
A calendar is like a map. And just as maps have insets, calendars in the
21st century might have 'moments' expressed in flat local time fanning out
into "great circles" expressed in earth revolution time.
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         Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 08:29:54 +0000
         From: "pjmoran" <noci_at_cox.net>
         Subject: Re: 18.399 scholarship and Google
Regarding "Redux Re: 18.390 scholarship and Google . . .With Google
Scholar, using search string "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" one does
access scholarly resources. One does not however access resources or
material that address the topic referenced as "Alice in Wonderland as a
Prism for Viewing Victorian Society."</quote> (See > Humanist 18.382). . ."
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This is not from Google, but I am wondering if the article cited below is
the "prism" thing being researched. . .Patricia J. Moran, Graduate Student,
Adult Education
COE, FSU Tallahassee, Florida 32306 (850-644-1595, % Easton).
Brandser, Kristin, "Law and Literature--Alice in Legal Wonderland: A
Cross-Examination of Gender, Race and Empire in Victorian Law and
Literature." Harvard Women's Law Journal. 24 . (2001). ISSN 0270-1456; OCLC
# 3967304
I found this in Article First.