19.694 text-analytic fantasies and realities

               Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 19, No. 694.
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   [1] From: Maurizio Lana <m.lana_at_lett.unipmn.it> (13)
         Subject: Re: 19.691 text-analytic fantasies and realities

   [2] From: Ryan Deschamps <Ryan.Deschamps_at_Dal.Ca> (52)
         Subject: Re: 19.691 text-analytic fantasies and realities

   [3] From: "Espen S. Ore" <espen.ore_at_nb.no> (18)
         Subject: Re: 19.684 an idle fantasy

   [4] From: Matt Jensen <mattj_at_newsblip.com> (14)
         Subject: Re: text-analytic fantasies and realities

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         Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:51:36 +0100
         From: Maurizio Lana <m.lana_at_lett.unipmn.it>
         Subject: Re: 19.691 text-analytic fantasies and realities

At 08.00 04/04/2006, Pat Galloway wrote:
>Why not just instrument an author experimentally=20
>and "watch" her composing digitally?

the Logitech IO2 digital pen=20
(<http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?page=3Dproducts/features/digitalwriting&c=>http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?page=3Dproducts/features/digitalwriting&c=
rid=3D1545&countryid=3D10&languageid=3D5)=20
could be a tool to use or is it too simple and/or awkward?

maurizio

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  Vercelli
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         Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:52:29 +0100
         From: Ryan Deschamps <Ryan.Deschamps_at_Dal.Ca>
         Subject: Re: 19.691 text-analytic fantasies and realities

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> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 06:55:14 +0100
> From: Matthew Jockers <mjockers_at_stanford.edu>
> >
>Ryan,

>More important to your own interests and to those of other list
>members, --while at the Humanities center next year I'll be running a
>workshop titled "Literary Studies and the Digital Library: Beyond
>Search and Access" in which I'll bring together scholars, librarians,
>content vendors, and developers for discussions about these sort of
>subjects--how can we leverage all of the digital content coming on
>line for new sorts of research?

Matt: Did you have any specific econometric tests in mind? Granger? Chou?

>My plan is to make these meetings public via web cast and/or video
>conf. At the very least as pod casts. As soon as the details are
>available, I'll post to the list.
>
>In the meantime, thanks for posting the suggestion--it reconfirms the
>sanity of my project.

I will be looking for this, thank you.

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> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 06:55:46 +0100
> From: Pat Galloway <galloway_at_ischool.utexas.edu>
> Subject: Text Analysis as a literary clock
>
>Why not just instrument an author experimentally and "watch" her
>composing digitally? It would certainly be worth a single experiment
>with a willing author. The main problem would be preserving the
>resulting files and logs in a functional state long enough to analyze
>them, and even that could be achieved if the author in question could
>be persuaded to use an open-source writing platform.

Better yet, could you convince authors to work on their own personal
wiki? That
way we could track the edits and the final product at the same time.
But this
would not capture notes, cuts and paste to the website etc.

I bet Margaret Atwood would go for this.

>Though you'd
>also need to bring in the world and record the author's online
>activities during the same time in doing research, browsing, etc. as
>well. Away back in the early 1980s I was curious about how writers'
>practice would change as they moved from typewriter to computer, and
>I had an agreement from someone now very well-known to be
>instrumented down to the keystroke--but the folks who were giving the
>grants from Apple Computer that I applied for just weren't
>interested. Ah, lost opportunities. But this idea from Ryan Deschamps
>could be very workable and maybe even fundable...
>Pat Galloway

Well go for it, and let me know how it goes (and how I can help!)

Ryan. ..

Ryan Deschamps MLIS/MPA

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         Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:53:43 +0100
         From: "Espen S. Ore" <espen.ore_at_nb.no>
         Subject: Re: 19.684 an idle fantasy

Humanist Discussion Group (by way of Willard McCarty
<willard.mccarty_at_kcl.ac.uk>) skrev 31.03.2006 12:02:
> Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 19, No. 684.
> Centre for Computing in the Humanities, King's College London
> www.kcl.ac.uk/humanities/cch/humanist/
> www.princeton.edu/humanist/
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>
> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:51:31 +0100
> From: Willard McCarty <willard.mccarty_at_kcl.ac.uk>
> >Imagine the following allegorical map.
>1. Running from the bottom of the map approximately to the middle of
>it is a major thoroughfare. Its original name was The Road of

Willard,

This is an intriguing model. I would like to see this map drawn, and
maybe one could place suggested addition into the drawing. Are you
making any (digital ) sketches?

Espen

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         Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:54:24 +0100
         From: Matt Jensen <mattj_at_newsblip.com>
         Subject: Re: text-analytic fantasies and realities

Matt Jockers wrote:

>Ryan,
>What you are asking for is exactly what I have been working on for
>several years now. At last year's meeting of the ACH/ALLC (Uvic) I
>presented some preliminary results in my paper titled "A
>Macro-Economic Model for Literary Research." ...

Can you please send me a copy? I've done work related to temporal
issues, on the visualization of complex timelines; look for my
upcoming "Semantic Timeline Tools for History and Criticism"* at
Digital Humanities 2006. Cheers,

Matt Jensen
NewsBlip
Seattle

* https://webcgi.oulu.fi/dh2006/viewabstract.php?id=120
Received on Wed Apr 05 2006 - 02:15:52 EDT