Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 32, No. 562. Department of Digital Humanities, King's College London Hosted by King's Digital Lab www.dhhumanist.org Submit to: email@example.com Date: 2019-03-19 16:42:22+00:00 From: Dr. Herbert Wender
Subject: Fwd: Re: [Humanist] 32.553: illusions of progress Elisa and Raff, thanks for the clarifications, esp. with regards to the different institutions and their different goals. And I regret that I wasn't able to express clearly enough my interest in the case which derives its origin from the discussion of prioritizing one hierarchy in TEI/XML encoding workflow. I was always skeptical about the use of forward encoding techniques to encode backward structures of historical documents, and this skepsis dates from the early 1990's. While Martin Mueller was outing his belief on order I would mean that most relevant in the research of early modern printing (and in later times too!) was the bibliographic documentation of disturbances (quires from another press run, press stop variants, ...). Yes, always when such a disturbance is documented the offended order is presupposed; but if to choose I think it's better to make directly visible the deviances leaving implicit what all readers will be able to identify as ordinary structure. (I think this is Desmond's approach too.) In the context of machine-readability this would mean to minimize the encoding in all cases of rule-conformant printing and to indicate otherwise locations where exception rules are applying. (BTW: The very beginning of hard-core bibliographic "Goethe-Philologie" was a study by Michael Bernays in the mid-19th century identifying an eye-skip in typesetting the text of "Werther" for the third eition of a rubber's sample print in the end of the 1770s. Some years ago Peter Shillingsburg was in clinch with German editors discussing the editorial consequences in such situations.) Skeptical with regards to historical printing in earlier TEI times, I'm now a decisive 'disbeliever' regarding the new trend of encoding manuscripts prioritizing a supposed order of zones in the surface. Who is ready to take punctuation as a kind to mark-up an underlying alphabetic text should be also willing to interpret Percy Shelley's interventions as 'mark-up' in a separate layer above the prior written text. And in such cases the details of the transformation process will be only relevant in double-page side-by-side presentation of facts and transcript to simplify the reading for unskilled readers (what was done by Ch. Robinson quite satisfyingly). In contouring the revision process behind the pen strokes (differentiating supposed intentions as stylistic, semantic etc.) it would be, IMHO, better to take not account of the surface writing operations which enact the intended changes but treat them as black boxes between initial state and final state. Two final(?) remarks about the S-GA encoding which will intentionally expose PBS's additions neglecting the deletions: 1. The properly encoding of the acting instance in "mod" tags resp. in free- standing "del"s would not prevent the concentration on additions in further processing. 2. As the rendering in the existant printed transcription byCh.Â Robinson shows quite properly the amount of PBS's additions, the representation of this italicizations in an electronic version - in which format ever - would be sufficient to reach the goal. For other remaining questions I will attend the finished Variorum edition. Kindly regards, Herbert _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted List posts to: firstname.lastname@example.org List info and archives at at: http://dhhumanist.org Listmember interface at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted/ Subscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/membership_form.php
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