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Humanist Archives: Sept. 26, 2019, 4:06 a.m. Humanist 33.279 - what's new

                  Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 33, No. 279.
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        Date: 2019-09-25 06:02:05+00:00
        From: William Pascoe 
        Subject: Re: [Humanist] 33.250: what's new


That's funny, I use Khakheperraseneb as an example of how there is nothing new
about *Post*modernism - because I heard it used that way somewhere else, though
I can't remember the reference, which I say to acknowledge it wasn't my original

Anything on postmodernism will answer the request for 'critical writing' on ways
of looking at novelty in relation to there being nothing new under the sun, so
rather than rehash some obvious references, I'd like to point out Soda_Jerk in
particular as a great example of 'high post-modernism' using multimedia and with
well developed theory along with it, in case you don't know them. Specifically,
I remember their argument for remixing, against copyright, being about these
companies purposefully putting their brands wherever we look, colonising our
psyche, such that they become part of our memory - if we are then unable to re-
use those impressions due to copyright law, we are being denied the right to
portray our own memory. It's somewhat hypocritical of them to force themselves
into our minds, then complain when we remember them. Insidiously, they deny us
rights to our own memories. Nobody owns our memories.

Sadly I can't find that particular critical piece - it's just a decaying memory,
a little noisier every time I remember it. Their movie 'Hollywood Burn' made
entirely out of remixed pop culture movies became a viral cult hit some time
back. 'The Was' was also successful:

Kind regards,

Dr Bill Pascoe
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C21CH Digital Humanities Lab

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From: Humanist 
Sent: Sunday, 15 September 2019 3:06 PM
To: publish-liv@humanist.kdl.kcl.ac.uk 
Subject: [Humanist] 33.250: what's new

                  Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 33, No. 250.
            Department of Digital Humanities, King's College London
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        Date: 2019-09-14 19:23:27+00:00
        From: Sean Yeager 
        Subject: Re: [Humanist] 33.239: what's 'new'?

Dear Willard,

I have no idea what makes something novel, but Ecclesiastes (~450-200 BC)
is a "modern" reinterpretation of Khakheperresenb's complaint from ~2000 BC

"If only I had unknown utterances
and extraordinary verses,
in a new language that does not pass away,
free from repetition,
without a verse of worn-out speech
spoken by the ancestors!"

Here's John Barth's rendering

"Would I had phrases that are not known in new language that has
not been used not an utterance which has grown stale, which men of old have


Sean A. Yeager, M.Sc., M.A.
Ph.D. Candidate in English
The Ohio State University

Former Assistant Professor of Physics and Mathematics
Pacific Northwest College of Art

On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 6:29 AM Humanist  wrote:

>                   Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 33, No. 239.
>             Department of Digital Humanities, King's College London
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>         Date: 2019-09-10 09:32:13+00:00
>         From: Willard McCarty 
>         Subject: what's 'new'?
> Many arguments on behalf of what we do with our machines make claims for
> discovering or inventing something new, perhaps even surprising. At one
> level novelty is itself not new but is the constant state of affairs. At
> another, as in Ecclesiastes, "there is nothing new under the sun". So,
> I'd conclude, novelty cannot be an absolute but must be in relation to a
> specific way of looking, to a specific perspective or perspectives. It
> depends, we might say, on the filter you have in place at the time. Or
> are there better ways of looking at the new?
> I would be very grateful for any recommendations of critical writing on
> this subject of the new, especially ones that place it in the contexts
> of more than one discipline.
> Many thanks.
> Yours,
> WM
> --
> Willard McCarty (www.mccarty.org.uk/),
> Professor emeritus, Department of Digital Humanities, King's College
> London; Editor, Interdisciplinary Science Reviews
> (www.tandfonline.com/loi/yisr20) and
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