Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 33, No. 503.
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        Date: 2019-12-17 21:09:10+00:00
        From: Willard McCarty 
        Subject: [Humanist] 33.490: indexing non-Latin scripts?

Thanks to Jihad El-Sana, Israel Cohen, Bill Pascoe, and Michael
Sperberg-McQueen for their answers and sympathy. Maybe I've been too
quick with the assumption how Cyrillic script is  getting expelled out
the scientific community; a sincere apology from the Scopus officials
arrived days ago. It seems that just an incompetent and stubborn
employee is to be blamed for the flop, while the Scopus language
policy has remained open. It calmed down my cultural concerns and
arose again the hopes for our multicultural future. -- miran

V V pet., 13. dec. 2019 ob 09:25 je oseba Humanist
 napisala:
>
>                   Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 33, No. 490.
>             Department of Digital Humanities, King's College London
>                    Hosted by King's Digital Lab
>                        www.dhhumanist.org
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>         Date: 2019-12-12 09:03:30+00:00
>         From: Miran Hladnik 
>         Subject: Indexing problems with non-Latin scripts
>
> The following will hardly spark sympathy among English speaking
> members of Humanist. But maybe it should, concerning that the word
> humanist indicates also a person respecting human dignity. It is about
> respecting other scripts and languages.
>
> Some months ago a Russian author in the journal I edit noticed that
> his paper hadn't been indexed by Elsevier Scopus. Being aware that
> articles and references in the Cyrillic script cause indexing problems
> with Scopus, the journal sticks to the instructions from the Scopus
> officials and transliterates every single Cyrillic entry into the
> Latin script. In spite of that the references were not indexed. I've
> intervened with Scopus. After a while I received the astonishing answer
> from the content account manager: The paper cannot be processed because
> the references are not in English! The new demand and the argument by
> Scopus sound like mocking: it would be unacceptable for a resarch
> paper to list the titles in a non-existing English translation instead
> of in original languages. Our journal publishes predominantly
> non-English papers, nevertheless it has been successfully processed by
> the same institution so far. The problem seems to be burning only
> regarding the use of the Cyrillic alphabet, which evidently disturbs
> some Scopus employees and raises suspicion, that someone is after
> expelling Russian out of the scientific community to maintain the
> dominance of English.
>
> I would appreciate your indexing experience with other languages and
> with non-Latin scripts, e. g. Hebrew or Greek. Apart from this, it
> seems necessary to tell, that in the times when every mobile device is
> capable of recognizing and translating a text of a deliberate script
> and language, the terror of English exercised by Elsevier Scopus is
> discriminating and indecent. -- miran hladnik
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miran_Hladnik)



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