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    [1]    From: Jon Crump 
           Subject: Re: [Humanist] 34.205: tracing a quotation? (69)

    [2]    From: Manfred Thaller 
           Subject: Re: [Humanist] 34.205: tracing a quotation? (31)

    [3]    From: Paul OShea 
           Subject: Re: [Humanist] 34.205: tracing a quotation? (28)


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        Date: 2020-08-02 12:51:43+00:00
        From: Jon Crump 
        Subject: Re: [Humanist] 34.205: tracing a quotation?

That's a good one that I don't know. Something similar is this famous
passage:

> This point of scientific method merely shows (what no one to my knowledge
> ever denied) that if miracles did occur, science, as science, could not
> prove, or disprove, their occurrence. What cannot be trusted to recur is
> not material for science: that is why history is not one of the sciences.
> You cannot find out what Napoleon did at the battle of Austerlitz by asking
> him to come and fight it again in a laboratory with the same combatants,
> the same terrain, the same weather, and in the same age. You have to go to
> the records. We have not, in fact, proved that science excludes miracles:
> we have only proved that the question of miracles, like innumerable other
> questions, excludes laboratory treatment.
>

God in the Dock
C.S. Lewis (May 20, 1946)

On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 12:02 AM Humanist  wrote:

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>         Date: 2020-08-01 10:26:08+00:00
>         From: Manfred Thaller 
>         Subject: Tracing a quote?
>
> Dear Humanists,
>
> Some twenty or thirty years ago I came across a quotation which
> fascinated me very much, but where unfortunately I did not write down
> the source. (Or indeed the quote verbatim.)
>
> Presumably a British historian at the start of the previous century (in
> any case before World War I) formulated something very close to:
>
> The problem of a historian, compared to a scientist, is "that it is very
> hard to put a small piece of the Roman Empire into a test tube, add some
> Christianity and watch whether it dissolves".
>
> I'd be extraordinarily grateful, if somebody could point me to the
> author of that statement.
>
> Best regards,
> Manfred
>
> --
>
> Prof. em. Dr. Manfred Thaller
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> Formerly University at Cologne
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        Date: 2020-08-02 12:58:35+00:00
        From: Manfred Thaller 
        Subject: Re: [Humanist] 34.205: tracing a quotation?

Dear Bethan,

thanks for the hint at Nevins, which I appreciate, as the American side
of the debate this refers to is definitely insufficiently know to me.

But the quote I am looking for is definitely focused on the Roman Empire
and Christianity, even if I can not guarantee that it is not a "chunk"
of the Empire rather than a piece or some such variation.

Nice Sunday,
Manfred

Am 02.08.2020 um 14:16 schrieb Bethan Tovey-Walsh:
> Allan Nevins, "The Gateway to History" has a section that talks about
> this issue, though without the precise details you gave. Are the
> 'Roman Empire' and 'Christianity' elements definitely parts of the
> passage you'e seeking, or could they be missing?
>
> Best wishes,
> BTW
>
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        Date: 2020-08-02 10:40:09+00:00
        From: Paul OShea 
        Subject: Re: [Humanist] 34.205: tracing a quotation?

Dear Professor Thaller,

The source of the quotation you are searching for can be located in:

Barrington Moore, Jr. *Soviet Politics: The Dilemma of Power (1950): The
Role of Ideas in Social Change*.

The quotation is on page 4, second paragraph. Please see screenshot
attached.

Kind regards,
Paul

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