9.519 the rush of java

Humanist (mccarty@phoenix.Princeton.EDU)
Mon, 5 Feb 1996 21:48:38 -0500 (EST)

Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 9, No. 519.
Center for Electronic Texts in the Humanities (Princeton/Rutgers)
Information at http://www.princeton.edu/~mccarty/humanist/

[1] From: Andrew Armour <armour@pncl.co.uk> (15)
Subject: Re: 9.507 Java and society

[2] From: John Slatin <jslatin@mail.utexas.edu> (20)
Subject: Re: 9.511 Java

[3] From: EditorAnn@aol.com (2)
Subject: Re: 9.511 Java

[4] From: Willard McCarty <mccarty@phoenix.princeton.edu> (30)
Subject: The Web is Dead, long live ...

[5] From: Willard McCarty <mccarty@phoenix.princeton.edu> (180)
Subject: JavaWorld

Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 01:20:38 +0000
From: Andrew Armour <armour@pncl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: 9.507 Java and society

At 06:59 PM 1/31/96 -0500, C. M. Sperberg-McQueen wrote:
>Java will also make it much easier for small niche software products to
>be developed and distributed. That should be of some interest to those
>of us in academic life, since we do so much of our work in such niches.

I don't deny that Java sounds promising but I am hesitant about investing
any t&e into exploring its potential. The main reason is Blackbird -- now
known as Microsoft's Internet Studio. As a recent .net article put it, "the
bottom line is that you can do 99.9 per cent of what you want with Studio
alone and never have to learn Java which is serious command line
programming." [spatient@futurenet.co.uk] Visual Basic is all that's needed

While it's true that MS has licensed Java, that sort of "backing" doesn't
necessarily mean much (or we'd all have display Postscript by now). Java may
be cold before most folks even get a taste.

Andrew Armour
Keio University

Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 16:31:53 -0600
From: John Slatin <jslatin@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: 9.511 Java

Responding to my response to his query about Java and social control,
Willard McCarty asks:

> ... Has computer software reached the state at which we
>can read detailed traces of humanity in it? I have often been tempted to
>write an essay entitled "The theology of wordprocessing", somewhat along the
>lines of Umberto Eco's essay on the theology of computing platforms, taking
>into account the religion of the designers....
Of course it has: TACT and WordCruncher make all sorts of assumptions about
the nature of reading and scholarship, for example, and they have arguments
to make about the computer's role in these processes-- arguments I've
always assumed to be encapsulated in what I take to be the non-accidental
(indeed admonitory) way in which the *name* of one program responds to to
the name of the other...

Professor John M. Slatin
Director, Computer Writing & Research Lab
Div. of Rhetoric and Composition and Dept. of English
University of Texas at Austin
Austin, TX 78712
jslatin@mail.utexas.edu http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu

Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 17:20:25 -0500
From: EditorAnn@aol.com
Subject: Re: 9.511 Java

WRITE THAT ESSAY. You must, you must. And any further dissection of the
assumptions about humans in all this technology would be most welcome. New

[Editorial explanation: I threatened to write an essay entitled "The
Theology of Wordprocessing". Apparently my threat struck a chord.
Everyone can relax, however -- too many prior commitments. --WM]

Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 21:22:54 -0500
From: Willard McCarty <mccarty@phoenix.princeton.edu>
Subject: The Web is Dead, long live ...

The following came to me with an emoticonized wink. As for "dead
information" I am reminded of what Northrop Frye said once -- "There is no
such thing as dead literature, only dead readers."


>From: "John D. Bradley" <john.bradley@utoronto.ca>
>Of interest. I don't know if 12 months is the right interval. ;-) ... john
>Futurist Paul Saffo predicts the transformation of the Web in the next 12
>months: "The Web as we know it today is dead. It's dead in two ways:
>because it's going to mutate into something else very quickly and be
>unrecognizable within 12 months, and secondly, it's dead because all it's
>got on it is dead information... Sure, there are links, but the links just
>lead to more dead information. It's a big information mausoleum. But with
>things like Java, you get animation. The information is alive... Today, if
>you think about it, it's really quite bizarre. You dial into a Web page.
>There may be a thousand other people at that page. But the only way that
>you even know anyone else is there is that the server is slow. The next big
>change is going to be finding ways to put qualities that we associate with
>MUDs today into Web pages so that you can interact with people." (Upside
>Feb 96 p26)

Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 21:18:07 -0500
From: Willard McCarty <mccarty@phoenix.princeton.edu>
Subject: JavaWorld

>Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 21:04:05 -0800
>From: michael@trillian.advanced.com (Michael O'Connell)
>To: online-news@marketplace.com
>Subject: IDG's latest Web-only magazine announced: JavaWorld
>Below is the press announcement regarding a new Web-based magazine
>covering the Java computer language and related technologies.
>For an HTML version of this press release along with a related news
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>Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments. I welcome
>input and suggestions.
>Michael O'Connell Web Publishing Inc./IDG
>Editor-in-Chief 501 Second St, Fourth Floor
>JavaWorld magazine - www.javaworld.com San Francisco, CA 94107
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>For Immediate Release
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>Electronic Magazine Dedicated To Java Developers And Enthusiasts
>Boston, MA (February 2, 1996) -- International Data Group (IDG), the
>world's leading computer publishing, research, and exposition company,
>announced today that it will launch JavaWorld Magazine on the World Wide
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